Bath Salts Drug Crisis

[viper37]

I thought we already had a few threads on this.

It's so stupid, it needs to be reiterated.

all drug use is stupid, if people don't know that by now, they will never learn.  Why bother?

[Barrister]

My position on drugs is extremely liberal on pot and most hallucinogenics.  Not on this shit.  This is really, really bad.

Legalize the drugs I like, but ban the ones I don't.

[Grey Fox]

My position on drugs is extremely liberal on pot and most hallucinogenics.  Not on this shit.  This is really, really bad.

Legalize the drugs I like, but ban the ones I don't.

Isn't that what we did but instead of using Quee's judgement we used some old guys judgement?

[garbon]

all drug use is stupid, if people don't know that by now, they will never learn.  Why bother?

Agreed. Penicillin is terrible!

[Malthus]

Heh, think that's bad? Try googling "krokodil". 

You tried it, didn't you?

[Barrister]

My position on drugs is extremely liberal on pot and most hallucinogenics.  Not on this shit.  This is really, really bad.

Legalize the drugs I like, but ban the ones I don't.

Isn't that what we did but instead of using Quee's judgement we used some old guys judgement?

If by "some old guys" you mean Parliament, then yes.  But I can see how you would think that one 20-something Chicago stoner is equivalent to our elected representatives.

[Malthus]

My position on drugs is extremely liberal on pot and most hallucinogenics.  Not on this shit.  This is really, really bad.

Legalize the drugs I like, but ban the ones I don't.

Isn't that what we did but instead of using Quee's judgement we used some old guys judgement?

If by "some old guys" you mean Parliament, then yes.  But I can see how you would think that one 20-something Chicago stoner is equivalent to our elected representatives.

Though, oddly enough, in this case he's got the better opinion. 

There is no rational reason to treat pot legally like "bath salts" and not like tobacco and booze.

[Grey Fox]

My position on drugs is extremely liberal on pot and most hallucinogenics.  Not on this shit.  This is really, really bad.

Legalize the drugs I like, but ban the ones I don't.

Isn't that what we did but instead of using Quee's judgement we used some old guys judgement?

If by "some old guys" you mean Parliament, then yes.  But I can see how you would think that one 20-something Chicago stoner is equivalent to our elected representatives.

Bias is Bias.

[Slargos]

My position on drugs is extremely liberal on pot and most hallucinogenics.  Not on this shit.  This is really, really bad.

Legalize the drugs I like, but ban the ones I don't.

Isn't that what we did but instead of using Quee's judgement we used some old guys judgement?

If by "some old guys" you mean Parliament, then yes.  But I can see how you would think that one 20-something Chicago stoner is equivalent to our elected representatives.

Though, oddly enough, in this case he's got the better opinion. 

There is no rational reason to treat pot legally like "bath salts" and not like tobacco and booze.

If being inconsistent is the mark of an intelligent man, you are a true genius. 

[Though actually, you are very consistent in that you always construct your arguments out of personal convenience rather than logic.]

[Barrister]

Though, oddly enough, in this case he's got the better opinion. 

There is no rational reason to treat pot legally like "bath salts" and not like tobacco and booze.

I seriously don't want to debate legalizing drugs today.

I've never run into "bath salts" on a file, either up north or in Alberta.  But as with many trends, sometimes we're just a year or two behind.  Or sometimes the trend just never gets here at all.  There are some communities which were ravaged by crystal meth, but others (not even that far away) which never had it as a problem at all.  Drugs are funny that way.

[Malthus]

Though, oddly enough, in this case he's got the better opinion. 

There is no rational reason to treat pot legally like "bath salts" and not like tobacco and booze.

I seriously don't want to debate legalizing drugs today.

I've never run into "bath salts" on a file, either up north or in Alberta.  But as with many trends, sometimes we're just a year or two behind.  Or sometimes the trend just never gets here at all.  There are some communities which were ravaged by crystal meth, but others (not even that far away) which never had it as a problem at all.  Drugs are funny that way.

What about huffing gasoline? That's always a good one. Hard to ban gasoline. 

[HVC]

Heh, think that's bad? Try googling "krokodil". 

You tried it, didn't you?

is that where you get your healthy reptilian sheen from? i just assumed it was a lawyer thing

[Malthus]

Heh, think that's bad? Try googling "krokodil". 

You tried it, didn't you?

is that where you get your healthy reptilian sheen from? i just assumed it was a lawyer thing

It has the side effect that I appear to be shedding my mammalian hair, but sadly, only on my head. 

[Barrister]

Though, oddly enough, in this case he's got the better opinion. 

There is no rational reason to treat pot legally like "bath salts" and not like tobacco and booze.

I seriously don't want to debate legalizing drugs today.

I've never run into "bath salts" on a file, either up north or in Alberta.  But as with many trends, sometimes we're just a year or two behind.  Or sometimes the trend just never gets here at all.  There are some communities which were ravaged by crystal meth, but others (not even that far away) which never had it as a problem at all.  Drugs are funny that way.

What about huffing gasoline? That's always a good one. Hard to ban gasoline. 

Thankfully, the negative effects of huffing are both rapidly apparent, and the high you get is apparently not very good, it is pretty rare for it to be much of a problem (except on some seriously isolated native communities).

[Malthus]

Though, oddly enough, in this case he's got the better opinion. 

There is no rational reason to treat pot legally like "bath salts" and not like tobacco and booze.

I seriously don't want to debate legalizing drugs today.

I've never run into "bath salts" on a file, either up north or in Alberta.  But as with many trends, sometimes we're just a year or two behind.  Or sometimes the trend just never gets here at all.  There are some communities which were ravaged by crystal meth, but others (not even that far away) which never had it as a problem at all.  Drugs are funny that way.

What about huffing gasoline? That's always a good one. Hard to ban gasoline. 

Thankfully, the negative effects of huffing are both rapidly apparent, and the high you get is apparently not very good, it is pretty rare for it to be much of a problem (except on some seriously isolated native communities).

That's just the point: drug prohibition, where successful, is likely to result in a situation where drugs that are relatively non-lethal become impossible to get are replaced by substitutes such as huffing solvents, or "krokodil"-like stuff. 

The reason is that the problem is not the availability of drugs, it is the social conditions that lead people to want vacations from reality.

[Obviously, people smoking a bit of pot to enhance listening to an album, or having an after-dinner glass of wine, are not in the same category as people huffing glue or doing meth because their reality is unbearable, but that's a different argument - about the silliness of treating 'em legally as similar].