California lawmakers pass bill to teach gay history

[HVC]

I would be ashamed to be Canadian. YMMV.

says the swede

[Malthus]

What "points"? The notion that because I named Banting I ought to be sad for some reason? That his & Best's discovery isn't inspirational?

read my post again.  The points are right there, clearly stated.

Are you, or are you not, claiming of Banting's life and work that there is "not much inspirational there"?

Because if so I disagree. I find his life is full of inspiration.

To particularize:

- was wounded under fire in battle in WW1; in spite of his wound, he went on treating others for 16 hours, for which he was awarded the Military Cross for heroism.

- In the 1920s, discovered Insulin's effect of diabetes, for which he was awarded the Nobel prize.

- Shares the money and credit with his assistant Best (though he did not have to).

- In the 30s, becomes interested in aviation medicine. Works secrety in the run-up to WW2. Dies in 1941 while en route to testing a new aviation suit.

Seems to be a life filled with heroism, significant scientific discovery that has helped millions of people survive what was otherwise a fatal condition, and admirably free of selfishness (his treatment of Best was truly noble).

To me, that's inspiring. Maybe not to you. Which I think says something rather more about you.

Edit: it will be interesting to see if you can find an American who matches his achievements - that is who (1) is awarded for heroism under fire; (2) makes a discovery that saves millions of lives and wins a Nobel prize for it; (3) is generous in sharing the credit for this; and (4) dies in the line of duty.

[The Brain]

I would be ashamed to be Canadian. YMMV.

says the swede

We were killing Russians when Canadians were still naked savages.

[HVC]

I would be ashamed to be Canadian. YMMV.

says the swede

We were killing Russians when Canadians were still naked savages.

You were so busy messing around with the russians that while not paying attention you were absorbed by the danes. danes for gods sake.

[The Brain]

I would be ashamed to be Canadian. YMMV.

says the swede

We were killing Russians when Canadians were still naked savages.

You were so busy messing around with the russians that while not paying attention you were absorbed by the danes. danes for gods sake.

Faggot.

[Malthus]

I would be ashamed to be Canadian. YMMV.

says the swede

We were killing Russians when Canadians were still naked savages.

You were so busy messing around with the russians that while not paying attention you were absorbed by the danes. danes for gods sake.

Or, in his case, Great Danes. 

[HVC]

I would be ashamed to be Canadian. YMMV.

says the swede

We were killing Russians when Canadians were still naked savages.

You were so busy messing around with the russians that while not paying attention you were absorbed by the danes. danes for gods sake.

Faggot.

and you have french kings. not even france has french kings anymore. i mean fail much?

[The Brain]

I would be ashamed to be Canadian. YMMV.

says the swede

We were killing Russians when Canadians were still naked savages.

You were so busy messing around with the russians that while not paying attention you were absorbed by the danes. danes for gods sake.

Faggot.

and you have french kings. not even france has french kings anymore. i mean fail much?

At least I don't suck dicks for a living.

[HVC]

At least I don't suck dicks for a living.

now you're not even trying anymore

[The Brain]

At least I don't suck dicks for a living.

now you're not even trying anymore

Let's leave this keen encounter of our wits.

[alfred russel]

Edit: it will be interesting to see if you can find an American who matches his achievements - that is who (1) is awarded for heroism under fire; (2) makes a discovery that saves millions of lives and wins a Nobel prize for it; (3) is generous in sharing the credit for this; and (4) dies in the line of duty.

JFK. Did he make a discovery that saved millions of lives? Maybe not, but he was pivotal in the cuban missile crisis, the civil rights movement, and the discovery of the moon (you may say the moon landings didn't really discover the moon, but with the Brain's demands for evidence in science and history, you could say that until we set foot on the moon, the moon was just one theory competing with the concept that it was a giant block of cheese).

[The Brain]

but with the Brain's demands for evidence in science and history, you could say that until we set foot on the moon, the moon was just one theory competing with the concept that it was a giant block of cheese).

Wut?

[Malthus]

Edit: it will be interesting to see if you can find an American who matches his achievements - that is who (1) is awarded for heroism under fire; (2) makes a discovery that saves millions of lives and wins a Nobel prize for it; (3) is generous in sharing the credit for this; and (4) dies in the line of duty.

JFK. Did he make a discovery that saved millions of lives? Maybe not, but he was pivotal in the cuban missile crisis, the civil rights movement, and the discovery of the moon (you may say the moon landings didn't really discover the moon, but with the Brain's demands for evidence in science and history, you could say that until we set foot on the moon, the moon was just one theory competing with the concept that it was a giant block of cheese).

Plus he humped Marilyn Monroe. That's got to count for something. 

But seriously - apples to oranges comparison.

I'd say his actual achievements as President tend to be over-rated because of his assassination. In addition to the Cuban Missile Crisis was the Bay of Pigs, and getting involved in Vietnam. His successor did more for civil rights. 

[alfred russel]

Plus he humped Marilyn Monroe. That's got to count for something. 

But seriously - apples to oranges comparison.

I'd say his actual achievements as President tend to be over-rated because of his assassination. In addition to the Cuban Missile Crisis was the Bay of Pigs, and getting involved in Vietnam. His successor did more for civil rights.

Bah. Even if you give all the blame to Kennedy for the Bay of Pigs and Vietnam (and Vietnam would be quite unfair), the Cuban Missile Crisis towers over them in importance. Also, civil rights was his platform.

Worst of all, Marilyn Monroe might have been been forced to sleep with Nixon if she wanted to have an affair with the president.   

[MadImmortalMan]

Plus he humped Marilyn Monroe. That's got to count for something. 

But seriously - apples to oranges comparison.

I'd say his actual achievements as President tend to be over-rated because of his assassination. In addition to the Cuban Missile Crisis was the Bay of Pigs, and getting involved in Vietnam. His successor did more for civil rights.

Bah. Even if you give all the blame to Kennedy for the Bay of Pigs and Vietnam (and Vietnam would be quite unfair), the Cuban Missile Crisis towers over them in importance. Also, civil rights was his platform.

Worst of all, Marilyn Monroe might have been been forced to sleep with Nixon if she wanted to have an affair with the president.   

Eh. The missile crisis performance was less than stellar. And civil rights would have advanced faster if Nixon had won that election, I think. I would say he was better at small things that were symbolic but had little impact in that regard. Nixon might have actually taken some chances. If you're going to give him credit for stuff, getting the economy back on track, the moon challenge and making the Irish love us are better examples.