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Started by Martinus, July 03, 2011, 03:17:05 AM

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Josquius

Dominating the news in the uk this xmas is that cumbria and Yorkshire have been flooded to hell. :(
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Razgovory

Quote from: Tyr on December 27, 2015, 01:40:59 PM
Dominating the news in the uk this xmas is that cumbria and Yorkshire have been flooded to hell. :(

Six are dead up in Pulaski county. :(
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KRonn

We should get our first snow in eastern Massachusetts tonight/tomorrow. Just some wet snow turning to rain and shouldn't accumulate to anything. Maybe north of Boston and into the northern New England states will see a small accumulation.

mongers

Much of nature seems to think Spring has arrived, bushes sprouting new growth, grass still growing well, some birds preparing to build new nests.  :hmm:
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Liep

Quote from: mongers on December 28, 2015, 10:25:14 AM
Much of nature seems to think Spring has arrived, bushes sprouting new growth, grass still growing well, some birds preparing to build new nests.  :hmm:

They claim here that we'll actually get frost in the daytime this coming week. It's like the days of yore.
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Admiral Yi

CNN says 43 dead in US last week from weather.

lustindarkness

Quote from: Admiral Yi on December 28, 2015, 12:50:51 PM
CNN says 43 dead in US last week from weather.

Global Warming!!!!! Climate Change!!!!


In other news, its raining cats and dogs again.
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Caliga

Same.  It's like I moved to India and it's the monsoon. :rolleyes:
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Admiral Yi

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Caliga

Quote from: Admiral Yi on December 28, 2015, 04:40:44 PM
Then you better slick back your hair and start DANCING!
I have started using pomade at least. :cool:
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Razgovory

Christ it's rainy.  I've never seen it flood in winter here.  Winter is typically when the river hits a low point and you can see sand bars appear in the middle of the channel.
I've given it serious thought. I must scorn the ways of my family, and seek a Japanese woman to yield me my progeny. He shall live in the lands of the east, and be well tutored in his sacred trust to weave the best traditions of Japan and the Sacred South together, until such time as he (or, indeed his house, which will periodically require infusion of both Southern and Japanese bloodlines of note) can deliver to the South it's independence, either in this world or in space.  -Lettow April of 2011

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Liep

Will the UK still exist after Frank is done with her?
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Syt

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/capital-weather-gang/wp/2015/12/28/freak-storm-in-north-atlantic-may-push-temperatures-70-degrees-above-normal-at-north-pole/?tid=hybrid_experimentrandom_2_na

QuoteFreak storm in North Atlantic to lash UK, may push temperatures over 50 degrees above normal at North Pole

The vigorous low pressure system that helped spawn devastating tornadoes in the Dallas area on Saturday is forecast to explode into a monstrous storm over Iceland by Wednesday.

[Nature's startling contrast: Tornadoes torment Texas; Blizzard buries New Mexico]

Big Icelandic storms are common in winter, but this one may rank among the strongest and will draw northward an incredible surge of warmth pushing temperatures at the North Pole over 50 degrees above normal.  This is mind-boggling.

And the storm will batter the United Kingdom, reeling from recent flooding, with another round of rain and wind.

Computer model simulations show the storm, sweeping across the north central Atlantic today, rapidly intensifying along a jet stream ripping above the ocean at 230 mph.

The storm's pressure is forecast by the GFS model to plummet more than 50 millibars in 24 hours between Monday night and Tuesday night, easily meeting the criteria of a 'bomb cyclone' (a drop in pressure of at least 24 mb in 24 hours),

By Wednesday morning, when the storm reaches Iceland and nears maximum strength, its minimum pressure is forecast to be near 923 mb, which would rank among the great storms of the North Atlantic. (Note: there is some uncertainty as to how much it will intensify. The European model only drops the minimum pressure to around 936 mb, which is strong but not that unusual). Winds of hurricane force are likely to span hundreds of miles in the North Atlantic.

Environmental blogger Robert Scribbler notes this storm will be linked within a "daisy chain" of two other powerful North Atlantic low pressure systems forming a "truly extreme storm system." He adds: "The Icelandic coast and near off-shore regions are expected to see heavy precipitation hurled over the island by 90 to 100 mile per hour or stronger winds raging out of 35-40 foot seas. Meanwhile, the UK will find itself in the grips of an extraordinarily strong southerly gale running over the backs of 30 foot swells."

The UK Met Office cautions "a swathe of gale and severe gale force winds" may blast parts of the west and northern UK while heavy rains, capable of flooding, drench western and northern Britain. Parts of England, Scotland and Wales are only now recovering from "very serious flooding" over the weekend.

Ahead of the storm, the surge of warm air making a beeline towards the North Pole is astonishing. In the animation below, watch the warm temperature departures from normal, portrayed by red shades, explode towards the Pole between Monday and Wednesday.

It's as if a bomb went off. And, in fact, it did. The exploding storm acts a remarkably efficient heat engine, drawing warm air from the tropics to the top of the Earth.

The GFS model projects the temperature at the North Pole to reach near freezing or 32 degrees early Wednesday. Consider the average winter temperature there is around 20 degrees below zero. If the temperature rises to freezing, it would signify a departure from normal of over 50 degrees.

Scribbler says such an anomaly "reeks of a human-forced warming of the Earth's climate", although some climate scientists aren't convinced global warming is meaningfully impacting these types of storms.

The abrupt warming at high latitudes triggered by this event is forecast to shift the Arctic Oscillation more towards a negative phase, which will favor colder air in the mid-latitudes of North America and Europe in early January.

Update at 10 p.m.: There is conflicting information about what the average temperature at the North Pole is at this time of year. An educational website run by Woods Hole Oceanographic Institute indicates it is -40 degrees. However, meteorologist Ryan Maue indicates a re-analysis dataset suggests it is closer to -20 degrees (-29 Celsius). This story has been updated based on the assumption the average temperature is around -20 degrees, meaning the departure from average as a result of this storm would be over 50 degrees (as opposed to 70 degrees as stated when published initially).

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