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Started by Martinus, July 03, 2011, 03:17:05 AM

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crazy canuck

Quote from: KRonn on July 25, 2018, 12:42:57 PM
Quote from: crazy canuck on July 25, 2018, 10:59:37 AM
In the middle of a heat wave here too, and no precipitation - grasses are turning golden.  Quite something for what is supposed to be a temperate rain forest

Here almost every summer lawns turn brown due to lack of rain. Even the rain we've had off and on since Sunday hasn't yet made much difference as the grass is still mostly brown and dried out. The lawns will recover about September-October as we usually get more rain during that time and through Autumn. Early last Autumn after a good amount of rain my lawn became so green and full it surprised me, as it was quite a stark contrast to the dry, barren look previously during summer.

It is a recent phenomenon for us.  It used to be that Vancouver was a very green city all year.  But now we suffer summer droughts.

KRonn

Quote from: crazy canuck on July 25, 2018, 12:48:12 PM
Quote from: KRonn on July 25, 2018, 12:42:57 PM
Quote from: crazy canuck on July 25, 2018, 10:59:37 AM
In the middle of a heat wave here too, and no precipitation - grasses are turning golden.  Quite something for what is supposed to be a temperate rain forest

Here almost every summer lawns turn brown due to lack of rain. Even the rain we've had off and on since Sunday hasn't yet made much difference as the grass is still mostly brown and dried out. The lawns will recover about September-October as we usually get more rain during that time and through Autumn. Early last Autumn after a good amount of rain my lawn became so green and full it surprised me, as it was quite a stark contrast to the dry, barren look previously during summer.

It is a recent phenomenon for us.  It used to be that Vancouver was a very green city all year.  But now we suffer summer droughts.
Interesting. We have plenty of water even with usually somewhat dry summers. A few years ago we had a drought for two or three years but the officials in charge of water supplies said that we'd need a very long, severe drought to have a big effect. I get water from the Quabbin reservoir but those towns with their own wells or artesian wells usually have water restrictions almost every year. The town next to me has its own wells, doesn't get water from the Quabbin, and they often have water restrictions.


The Quabbin was built in the early 1900s and displaced four towns to make it. It's been a very successful water source, along with other smaller attached reservoirs like the Wachusett and the whole water system that supports it all. The system was overhauled in the 1980s to keep up with demand and water standards. We have a Water Resources Authority that was created during the overhaul that oversees the system - the MWRA. They seem to be doing a good job.

https://newengland.com/today/living/new-england-history/lost-towns-quabbin-reservoir/ 

garbon

London weather forecast has just edged up to 34c/93f for tomorrow. :bleeding:
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derspiess

Quote from: crazy canuck on July 25, 2018, 12:48:12 PM
Quote from: KRonn on July 25, 2018, 12:42:57 PM
Quote from: crazy canuck on July 25, 2018, 10:59:37 AM
In the middle of a heat wave here too, and no precipitation - grasses are turning golden.  Quite something for what is supposed to be a temperate rain forest

Here almost every summer lawns turn brown due to lack of rain. Even the rain we've had off and on since Sunday hasn't yet made much difference as the grass is still mostly brown and dried out. The lawns will recover about September-October as we usually get more rain during that time and through Autumn. Early last Autumn after a good amount of rain my lawn became so green and full it surprised me, as it was quite a stark contrast to the dry, barren look previously during summer.

It is a recent phenomenon for us.  It used to be that Vancouver was a very green city all year.  But now we suffer summer droughts.

For us it usually starts mid-June.  We've gotten more rain than usual, so most people's lawns stayed nice & green until just recently.
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mongers

Quote from: garbon on July 25, 2018, 01:48:32 PM
London weather forecast has just edged up to 34c/93f for tomorrow. :bleeding:

Remember the offical advice, if you start melting, try standing in an oven tray so the emergency services can collect the debris.  :bowler:
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Liep

Yesterday was the warmest day here in 43 years and only the 5th ever recording of a temperature above 33 degrees. This summer continues to rock.
"Af alle latterlige Ting forekommer det mig at være det allerlatterligste at have travlt" - Kierkegaard

"JamenajmenømahrmDÆ!DÆ! Æhvnårvaæhvadlelæh! Hvor er det crazy, det her, mand!" - Uffe Elbæk

Syt

Apparently there was a heatwave in Britain in 1976. However, that was isolated compared to this year's heat:



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Valmy

Man it must suck to have a heatwave in a summer in Saudi Arabia.
Quote"This is a Russian warship. I propose you lay down arms and surrender to avoid bloodshed & unnecessary victims. Otherwise, you'll be bombed."

Zmiinyi defenders: "Russian warship, go fuck yourself."

Syt

Or, worse, Iraq:

https://www.wsj.com/articles/oil-rich-iraq-cant-keep-the-lights-on-1532174400

QuoteOil-Rich Iraq Can't Keep the Lights On

BAGHDAD—Temperatures across southern Iraq are so high in the summer months that birds drop dead from the sky due to heat exhaustion. And tap water runs piping hot.

So when Iraq's power supply faltered this month as a heat wave ramped up air-conditioning demand, it ignited an angry question: Why can't one of the world's top oil producers keep the power on
?

Protests have rippled through Iraq's oil-rich south for over a week as demonstrators railed against the government's failure to provide basic services like electricity, health care and clean water. They have posed a serious enough risk that authorities have shut down the internet and sent in troops to quell the unrest.

Iraq's electricity sector is a microcosm of the ills plaguing the country since the U.S.-led invasion in 2003. Some households receive no more than a few hours of state-provided power a day during peak demand. People who can afford it buy their own generators, or buy from neighborhood generators, when the power goes out.

Among other cities, protests flared again on Friday in the province of Basra, where most of Iraq's oil is produced.

"Basra is like a camel loaded with gold and fed thorns: it produces 90% of Iraq's wealth but does not get enough electricity," said Hamid Hafidh, a protest organizer in the province.

Iraq produces much of the natural gas, gas oil, heavy oil and crude that it burns to create electricity, but most of its oil production is sent abroad as exports, which accounts for the vast majority of its government revenue.

But even if Iraq were to divert some of its oil exports for domestic power generation, Iraq can't generate the electricity it needs.

Iraqi electricity demand has grown to 23,000 megawatts at peak summer demand, but the country can only produce 15,900 megawatts, according to Iraq's Ministry of Electricity. Demand will continue to grow by around 7% a year, analysts say.

On top of everything else, the nation still is picking up the pieces after the militant Islamic State destroyed a swath of Iraq's electrical and oil refining capacity. That degraded a national power system that was falling short before the group began its three-year occupation of the north in 2014. Islamic State inflicted $7 billion of damage on the country's power system, with eight out of 17 power plants in occupied areas completely destroyed, according to a World Bank assessment.

Iraq has initiated a slew of projects to increase generation capacity, including multibillion-dollar contracts signed with Siemens AG and General Electric Co. , but they have yet to be completed. Attempts to purchase more electricity from nearby nations have been stymied or inconclusive.

Iraq had been purchasing electricity from Iran for several years, but Iran cut the power citing unpaid debt and electricity shortages of its own. Ministry of Electricity spokesman Mosaab al-Modares said Iraq has the money to pay, but can no longer transfer the funds without violating U.S. sanctions on Iran.

The biggest problem, however, isn't electricity generation, but distribution. As much as 65% of the power supply is consumed by people who illegally tap into the grid or don't have electricity meters, according to the Ministry of Electricity. Fee collection is also weak. In 2015, its best year to date, the ministry said it collected just 12% of fees.

The government tried in 2015 to collect more fees and stop illegal power consumption, but a popular backlash stalled it. Among the biggest opponents, Mr. Modares said, were private power generator owners, who he says collectively make around $10 billion in annual profits from the government's failure to provide electricity.

"The situation is completely unsustainable," said Robert Tollast, an Iraq-focused political risk analyst.

Meanwhile, the lack of electricity continues fuel the cries of protesters complaining about corruption and bad governance.

"It makes no sense that with the huge rise in temperature there is no electricity and the water is so salty that we cannot wash in it because our skin will burn," said Hussam Hassan, a protester Basra.
I am, somehow, less interested in the weight and convolutions of Einstein's brain than in the near certainty that people of equal talent have lived and died in cotton fields and sweatshops.
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Valmy

Because generating electricity is not the best use for oil?

Though I hear they have great solar resources.

QuoteIraq had been purchasing electricity from Iran for several years, but Iran cut the power citing unpaid debt and electricity shortages of its own. Ministry of Electricity spokesman Mosaab al-Modares said Iraq has the money to pay, but can no longer transfer the funds without violating U.S. sanctions on Iran.

:frusty:

Of course how were they purchasing the electricity in the first place...
Quote"This is a Russian warship. I propose you lay down arms and surrender to avoid bloodshed & unnecessary victims. Otherwise, you'll be bombed."

Zmiinyi defenders: "Russian warship, go fuck yourself."

Syt

At any rate, if this is what regular summers are going to look like in the Middle East, it will not help with stability in the region.
I am, somehow, less interested in the weight and convolutions of Einstein's brain than in the near certainty that people of equal talent have lived and died in cotton fields and sweatshops.
—Stephen Jay Gould

Proud owner of 42 Zoupa Points.

crazy canuck

Quote from: Syt on July 27, 2018, 10:09:15 AM
At any rate, if this is what regular summers are going to look like in the Middle East, it will not help with stability in the region.

Conflicts over water resources in the region have been predicted for a few decades now.

http://jcpa.org/article/a-commodity-in-scarcity-the-politics-of-water-in-the-middle-east/

Liep

Quote from: Liep on July 25, 2018, 04:30:15 AM
2nd day of plus 30 degrees here but they're saying this heatwave will bring thunder and rain with it in a few days, so that'll be a nice change.


4th day of plus 30 degrees here but they're saying this heatwave will bring thunder and rain with it in a few days, so that'll be a nice change.
"Af alle latterlige Ting forekommer det mig at være det allerlatterligste at have travlt" - Kierkegaard

"JamenajmenømahrmDÆ!DÆ! Æhvnårvaæhvadlelæh! Hvor er det crazy, det her, mand!" - Uffe Elbæk

garbon

Quote from: Liep on July 27, 2018, 11:50:47 AM
Quote from: Liep on July 25, 2018, 04:30:15 AM
2nd day of plus 30 degrees here but they're saying this heatwave will bring thunder and rain with it in a few days, so that'll be a nice change.


4th day of plus 30 degrees here but they're saying this heatwave will bring thunder and rain with it in a few days, so that'll be a nice change.

It just started here and temp is supposed to be down to 22 tomorrow. :cool:
"I've never been quite sure what the point of a eunuch is, if truth be told. It seems to me they're only men with the useful bits cut off."
I drank because I wanted to drown my sorrows, but now the damned things have learned to swim.