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Started by Viking, July 02, 2011, 09:04:23 AM

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Viking

July 02, 2011, 09:04:23 AM
Is there any true terra nullius in historical time? Basically, is there any place in the world where humans have permanently settled in historical time where no humans had previously lived there? I know Iceland fits this description, but what I am wondering is if any other place fits this description as well?
First Maxim - "There are only two amounts, too few and enough."
First Corollary - "You cannot have too many soldiers, only too few supplies."
Second Maxim - "Be willing to exchange a bad idea for a good one."
Second Corollary - "You can only be wrong or agree with me."

A terrorist which starts a slaughter quoting Locke, Burke and Mill has completely missed the point.
The fact remains that the only person or group to applaud the Norway massacre are random Islamists.

barkdreg

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July 02, 2011, 09:10:47 AM
Islands like the Falklands and Saint Helena spring to mind.

Josquius

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July 02, 2011, 09:14:04 AM
Polynesia.
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Razgovory

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July 02, 2011, 09:16:17 AM
Quote from: Tyr on July 02, 2011, 09:14:04 AM
Polynesia.

Those were settled in prehistory.

I'm thinking some tiny Atlantic islands possibly.  Like St. Helena.  Maybe Spitsbergen.
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Syt

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July 02, 2011, 09:26:27 AM
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July 02, 2011, 09:28:26 AM
New Zealand and Madagascar were settled in the last 1000 years weren't they?
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HisMajestyBOB

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July 02, 2011, 09:31:08 AM
Quote from: barkdreg on July 02, 2011, 09:10:47 AM
Islands like the Falklands and Saint Helena spring to mind.

And the mid-Atlantic islands like Bermuda and Azores.
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Razgovory

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July 02, 2011, 09:33:54 AM
Quote from: jimmy olsen on July 02, 2011, 09:28:26 AM
New Zealand and Madagascar were settled in the last 1000 years weren't they?

Er, close I think.  But they had no writing so they are by definition "prehistoric".
I've given it serious thought. I must scorn the ways of my family, and seek a Japanese woman to yield me my progeny. He shall live in the lands of the east, and be well tutored in his sacred trust to weave the best traditions of Japan and the Sacred South together, until such time as he (or, indeed his house, which will periodically require infusion of both Southern and Japanese bloodlines of note) can deliver to the South it's independence, either in this world or in space.  -Lettow April of 2011

Raz is right. -MadImmortalMan March of 2017

Caliga

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July 02, 2011, 09:34:25 AM
Quote from: HisMajestyBOB on July 02, 2011, 09:31:08 AM
And the mid-Atlantic islands like Bermuda and Azores.
Definitely true in the case of Bermuda, but haven't there been some controversial finds of Roman or Phoenician pottery in the Azores?
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Ideologue

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July 02, 2011, 09:46:52 AM
Quote from: jimmy olsen on July 02, 2011, 09:28:26 AM
New Zealand and Madagascar were settled in the last 1000 years weren't they?

NZ I can see (although I'm still surprised), but Madagascar?  That's boggling.
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Josquius

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July 02, 2011, 09:49:52 AM
Quote from: Razgovory on July 02, 2011, 09:16:17 AM
Those were settled in prehistory.

I'm thinking some tiny Atlantic islands possibly.  Like St. Helena.  Maybe Spitsbergen.
Not all of them, some were settled in very recent times. New Zealand for instance was just around 1000ad iirc. And then there were some islands that were unsettled- Pitcairn for instance had been settled by Polynesians at one time but they'd long since left when the Brits showed up.
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Viking

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July 02, 2011, 09:53:24 AM
Madagascar seems to have been settled first between 300 BC and 500 AD according to wikipedia.
New Zealand seems to have been settled in the 13th century AD, also according to wikipedia.

The issue I have been going for has been identifying true aboriginals, so the Malagasy and Maoris do seem to be true aboriginals. True aboriginals would be the ones that didn't throw anybody else of the land to take it.
First Maxim - "There are only two amounts, too few and enough."
First Corollary - "You cannot have too many soldiers, only too few supplies."
Second Maxim - "Be willing to exchange a bad idea for a good one."
Second Corollary - "You can only be wrong or agree with me."

A terrorist which starts a slaughter quoting Locke, Burke and Mill has completely missed the point.
The fact remains that the only person or group to applaud the Norway massacre are random Islamists.

The Brain

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July 02, 2011, 10:19:38 AM
Quote from: Ideologue on July 02, 2011, 09:46:52 AM
Quote from: jimmy olsen on July 02, 2011, 09:28:26 AM
New Zealand and Madagascar were settled in the last 1000 years weren't they?

NZ I can see (although I'm still surprised), but Madagascar?  That's boggling.

Hint: closest major landmass is Africa. It wasn't settled from Africa.
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Norgy

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July 02, 2011, 10:52:07 AM
What about Easter Island?

http://www.sciencemag.org/content/311/5767/1603.abstract

QuoteRadiocarbon dates for the earliest stratigraphic layers at Anakena, Easter Island, and analysis of previous radiocarbon dates imply that the island was colonized late, about 1200 A.D.

Pat

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July 02, 2011, 12:31:36 PM
Quote from: The Brain on July 02, 2011, 10:19:38 AM
Quote from: Ideologue on July 02, 2011, 09:46:52 AM
Quote from: jimmy olsen on July 02, 2011, 09:28:26 AM
New Zealand and Madagascar were settled in the last 1000 years weren't they?

NZ I can see (although I'm still surprised), but Madagascar?  That's boggling.

Hint: closest major landmass is Africa. It wasn't settled from Africa.


...but by Polynesians! That came from across the other side of the Indian ocean.
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