Dont' bring manga into Canada

[The Brain]

But since I fail to see any legitimate reason whatsoever for someone to read child porn cartoons,

Really?

Irony?

You really don't see any legitimate reason? That's just bizarre.

Ok, vilket skulle det skyddsvärda intresset vara för att tillåta tecknad barnporr? Konkret, utan att hänvisa till yttrandefrihet alltså.

One legitimate reason for someone to read child porn cartoons that comes to mind is masturbation.

[Bluebook]

One legitimate reason for someone to read child porn cartoons that comes to mind is masturbation.

Oh, you were just trolling.

[Martinus]

While in many ways, it's good to see those charged with enforcing the law standing up for the law as written (otherwise, taken to an extreme, why even have written laws--just let them enforce their own individual views), but when not acting in an official capacity, it does take a lot of the wind out of their arguments when their position boils down to, "Activity A should be against the law because the law says that activity A is illegal".  A bit of circular reasoning there.

Well, my point is that either the job attracts the kind of people who think that way, or you eventually start thinking that way as a result of the job. Every cop I've ever discussed this kind of subject with has reasoned the same way. It is illegal, and any question as to why is irrelevant.

I expect that if you are the kind of person who will easily consider the gray areas, you may perhaps not become that efficient at your job whether you're a police officer or a prosecutor.

No, instead I think it's that prosecutor's and cops just get really, really tired of people trying to argue their charges.

If you think (to pick the obvious example) that marijuana should be legal - that's great.  Go write a letter to the editor, join a political party, protest at the capital.   But don't start arguing what the law "should be" when you're in court.  It is not the time or place for those kind of political discussions.  Don't argue how speeding laws are unjust to the cop who is writing you a speeding ticket.

I'm perfectly able to discuss what the law "should be" - in the right arena.

But you aren't, really. You are arguing like a prosecutor in the court room. But, newsflash! We are not in a court room. We come here exactly for that kind of abstract discussions. And your obvious inability to do so makes you a rather dull conversationalist.

[The Brain]

One legitimate reason for someone to read child porn cartoons that comes to mind is masturbation.

Oh, you were just trolling.

Why do think I am trolling? If masturbating isn't a legitimate reason to read porn then we have left Planet Reasonable.

[Martinus]

So the thread has turned from BB being a square to Hortlund being a troll? Sometimes it feels like we are just going through the motions.

[Slargos]

Wait, Bluebook is Hortlund?

[Bluebook]

No, not Hortlund, I was Oxenstierna back in the old forum. We have been over this several times before.

[Martinus]

No, not Hortlund, I was Oxenstierna back in the old forum. We have been over this several times before.

I refuse to believe there are more idiotic Swedes like this. You are Hortlund. Stat.

[Bluebook]

One legitimate reason for someone to read child porn cartoons that comes to mind is masturbation.

Oh, you were just trolling.

Why do think I am trolling? If masturbating isn't a legitimate reason to read porn then we have left Planet Reasonable.

No, someone wanting to masturbate to child porn is not a legitimate reason to allow cartoon child porn.
Im sorry, Im just not going to take you seriously anymore in this thread.

[The Brain]

One legitimate reason for someone to read child porn cartoons that comes to mind is masturbation.

Oh, you were just trolling.

Why do think I am trolling? If masturbating isn't a legitimate reason to read porn then we have left Planet Reasonable.

No, someone wanting to masturbate to child porn is not a legitimate reason to allow cartoon child porn.
Im sorry, Im just not going to take you seriously anymore in this thread.

It's OK, I'll sort you with BB under "victimless crimes = win".

[Habbaku]

No, not Hortlund, I was Oxenstierna back in the old forum. We have been over this several times before.

I refuse to believe there are more idiotic Swedes like this. You are Hortlund. Stat.

  Please don't use words you don't know the meaning of.

[Jacob]

  Please don't use words you don't know the meaning of.

That would severely limit his ability to post here.

Oh, wait a second...

[The Brain]

No, not Hortlund, I was Oxenstierna back in the old forum. We have been over this several times before.

I refuse to believe there are more idiotic Swedes like this. You are Hortlund. Stat.

  Please don't use words you don't know the meaning of.

Shh.

[Barrister]

Cartoon child porn is illegal in Sweden aswell. I fail to be upset about this. On the one hand, sure it is a limitation of someones freedom of expression, but on the other hand I just dont see any reason why watching cartoon child porn should be in any way a legitimate protected interest in the eyes of the law.

Methadone for paedos.

I think its the other way around, viagra for paedos...

I believe it is the latter.

Paedo sex offenders rarely start out by yanking children into the bushes.  It's a whole learning process and development.  They might start out by watching Disney Channel and going to children's parks, but can develop into reading some tame comics, then more explicit comics, then explicit photographs, then on to real live children.

Of course this is not a universal, not an inevitable process.  I know that some paedos never move beyond the images.  But that's the risk, and is why such material depicting children in explicit sexual activities are banned.

[Barrister]

But you aren't, really. You are arguing like a prosecutor in the court room. But, newsflash! We are not in a court room. We come here exactly for that kind of abstract discussions. And your obvious inability to do so makes you a rather dull conversationalist.

Marti, I've spent quite a bit of time in this thrad today (it's a slow day at work).

Why don't you pick one of my posts and address some of the points I've made?  So far you've only made a couple of drive-by ad hom attacks.  I mean if that's all you feel up to, that's fine, but I'd be more interested to see you actually say something.