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Started by Josephus, June 25, 2011, 07:47:46 AM

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Martinus

Quote from: sbr on June 25, 2011, 10:15:56 AM
Quote from: Tyr on June 25, 2011, 10:12:42 AM
Scary. Laptop file searching. :ph34r:

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Tonitrus

Quote from: MadImmortalMan on June 25, 2011, 04:02:28 PM
Quote from: Tyr on June 25, 2011, 10:12:42 AM
Scary. Laptop file searching. :ph34r:

Why would they search his files, and why would he let them? Put a damn password on it.

I thought in cases like these, they can either compel you reveal the password, or hold you until you do.  Or just deny entry to the country on the same basis.

The Brain

On the plus side waterboarding is pretty quick so you won't be delayed much by refusing to give them the password. Oh right, this wasn't in the US. Nm.
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Quote from: Tonitrus on June 25, 2011, 05:13:08 PM

I thought in cases like these, they can either compel you reveal the password, or hold you until you do.  Or just deny entry to the country on the same basis.

No probable cause? No warrant?
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Quote from: The Brain on June 25, 2011, 05:14:36 PM
On the plus side waterboarding is pretty quick so you won't be delayed much by refusing to give them the password. Oh right, this wasn't in the US. Nm.
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Quote from: MadImmortalMan on June 25, 2011, 07:06:08 PM
No probable cause? No warrant?

You don't need either at a border crossing.

Josephus

Quote from: MadImmortalMan on June 25, 2011, 07:06:08 PM
Quote from: Tonitrus on June 25, 2011, 05:13:08 PM

I thought in cases like these, they can either compel you reveal the password, or hold you until you do.  Or just deny entry to the country on the same basis.

No probable cause? No warrant?

They're customs dudes. They can ask to go through your luggage and give you a right royal pat down without a warrant...not sure why a laptop would be different. But I'm not sure.
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Martinus

Quote from: Josephus on June 25, 2011, 07:17:43 PM
Quote from: MadImmortalMan on June 25, 2011, 07:06:08 PM
Quote from: Tonitrus on June 25, 2011, 05:13:08 PM

I thought in cases like these, they can either compel you reveal the password, or hold you until you do.  Or just deny entry to the country on the same basis.

No probable cause? No warrant?

They're customs dudes. They can ask to go through your luggage and give you a right royal pat down without a warrant...not sure why a laptop would be different. But I'm not sure.

I guess in  a case of a laptop there is also an issue of privacy/secrecy of correspondence involved. Can the customs officers go through your personal letters or contact list on your phone? I would think this goes beyond their scope of duties.

In this day and age of internet, there is really no compelling case for looking through someone's laptop for a fear of "smuggling" anything.

Syt

Quote from: MadImmortalMan on June 25, 2011, 04:02:28 PM
Quote from: Tyr on June 25, 2011, 10:12:42 AM
Scary. Laptop file searching. :ph34r:

Why would they search his files, and why would he let them? Put a damn password on it.

In the UK at least, not giving out such a password could get you in trouble, though:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-11479831
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Martinus

Just a thought - I'm gonna save a couple of my legal opinions among my porn stash - then claim legal privilege. :smarty:

Neil

Quote from: Martinus on June 26, 2011, 06:20:18 AM
Just a thought - I'm gonna save a couple of my legal opinions among my porn stash - then claim legal privilege. :smarty:
Legal privilege won't stand up to child porn hysteria.  And you're gay, so you're already just the sort of person they're going to give a little extra scrutiny.
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Quote from: Admiral Yi on June 25, 2011, 04:44:03 PM
Who in Canada has the job of deciding whether a given drawing is of a 12 year old or of a young looking 18 year old?

A judge.
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Quote from: MadImmortalMan on June 25, 2011, 07:06:08 PM
Quote from: Tonitrus on June 25, 2011, 05:13:08 PM

I thought in cases like these, they can either compel you reveal the password, or hold you until you do.  Or just deny entry to the country on the same basis.

No probable cause? No warrant?

CBSA doesn't need either.

If you don't want your shit searched, then don't enter Canada.
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Barrister

Quote from: Martinus on June 26, 2011, 06:20:18 AM
Just a thought - I'm gonna save a couple of my legal opinions among my porn stash - then claim legal privilege. :smarty:

While you might confuse the border guard long enough for it to work, you know damn well that won't hold up in a court of law.

Besides, I never got why you would need to store porn on your computer.  It's not as if it is hard to find.  Just download your smut on an as-needed basis, and delete when you're done.
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