Pakistan arrests C.I.A. informants in bin Laden raid

[Admiral Yi]

Back to the topic at hand, rather than a retarded-comment-in-response-to-racist-quip-turned-into-a-AI-nerd-circle-jerk this thread has become, I don't see anything wrong per se with Pakistan arresting the informants - you never want your own military personnel selling state secrets to foreign powers, even if they are your allies.

The Pakistanis' fault lies in not cooperating at the government/agency level, but can't blame them for rooting out traitors.

I can blame them very much for considering Bin Laden's location a state secret.

[Slargos]

Back to the topic at hand, rather than a retarded-comment-in-response-to-racist-quip-turned-into-a-AI-nerd-circle-jerk this thread has become, I don't see anything wrong per se with Pakistan arresting the informants - you never want your own military personnel selling state secrets to foreign powers, even if they are your allies.

The Pakistanis' fault lies in not cooperating at the government/agency level, but can't blame them for rooting out traitors.

I can blame them very much for considering Bin Laden's location a state secret.

Oh yes. They should give up the location of a man who will be murdered by Americans when you find him. 

They knew he would never see a court room.

[The Brain]

  The US wouldn't mind Pakistani forces going into America and killing guys.

[mongers]

Why are people surprised that OBL was staying at a government safe house ?

[Razgovory]

The US wouldn't mind Pakistani forces going into America and killing guys.

We let the Chileans do it.

[Viking]

Why are people surprised that OBL was staying at a government safe house ?

It's more a case of us being surprised that we haven't started bombing the ISI headquarters.

[Valmy]

One day, Slargos, I hope someone drops you in to the middle of the 9th Century in whatever shithole Scandinavian country you come from, just to teach you a lesson in the lunacy of presuming your racial superiority over peoples who were inventing Algebra while your shit for brains ancestors were gutting men for Odin.

Yeah seeing a 100% Viking white Scandinavia will really break Slarg's heart.

[Razgovory]

One day, Slargos, I hope someone drops you in to the middle of the 9th Century in whatever shithole Scandinavian country you come from, just to teach you a lesson in the lunacy of presuming your racial superiority over peoples who were inventing Algebra while your shit for brains ancestors were gutting men for Odin.

Yeah seeing a 100% Viking white Scandinavia will really break Slarg's heart.

But who will he blame for rampant poverty and violence?

[KRonn]

Lol.. Pakistan should have been just as quick to arrest bin Laden and his cronies as they were in going after these guys! What a farce.

I hope the Pakistanis enjoy holding onto that tiger's tail of radicalism that some segments of their government seems to support. I'm sure it won't bite the hand that feeds it!   

[Eddie Teach]

Geez. I thought Languish was above topics like "If you were transported 1200 years in the past, how fast would you teach the natives to build a nuke". Seriously. 

If we're not above discussing your love life, we're not above discussing anything. Not that a theoretical discussion about historical development is inferior in any way to the n-thousandth thread about current events in the Middle East.

[Valmy]

But who will he blame for rampant poverty and violence?

Christian Missionaries.   Damn immigrants.

[Zeus]

Is that really true though? Do you understand modern technologies well enough for you to recreate them, or 9th century Vikings(you'd be better off in Byzantium methinks) to reverse engineer them?

I think most people(well most educated people) could punch out a bunch of major theoretical break-throughs(gravity, gene theory, heliocentrism, bits and pieces of the calculus, etc) but wouldn't be able to do much with those- it would still fall to 9th century scientists to figure out a use for them.

I think Twain's Connecticut Yankee had far more success in recreating his world than is realistically possible(accepting for a moment the possibility of time travel itself).

Technological knowledge is self-accelerating, though.  Seed the 9th century people with enough of what you know, and they'll take what you know and run with it.  The biggest challenge would be to ensure that 9th century place you wind up in will have the educational and research infrastructure in place.

Actually the biggest challenge would be trying to convince your stomach to adapt to digesting the local foods. 

[Crazy_Ivan80]

Is that really true though? Do you understand modern technologies well enough for you to recreate them, or 9th century Vikings(you'd be better off in Byzantium methinks) to reverse engineer them?

I think most people(well most educated people) could punch out a bunch of major theoretical break-throughs(gravity, gene theory, heliocentrism, bits and pieces of the calculus, etc) but wouldn't be able to do much with those- it would still fall to 9th century scientists to figure out a use for them.

I think Twain's Connecticut Yankee had far more success in recreating his world than is realistically possible(accepting for a moment the possibility of time travel itself).

Technological knowledge is self-accelerating, though.  Seed the 9th century people with enough of what you know, and they'll take what you know and run with it.  The biggest challenge would be to ensure that 9th century place you wind up in will have the educational and research infrastructure in place.

Actually the biggest challenge would be trying to convince your stomach to adapt to digesting the local foods. 

bad case of touristas I guess

[Razgovory]

Hell, the US invaded a 9th century country back in 2003 and still hasn't been able to uplift it.

[DGuller]

Hell, the US invaded a 9th century country back in 2003 and still hasn't been able to uplift it.