Hey X-gen bosses - How do you deal with Y-ers?

[bogh]

What's the definition of Y and X?

[Zanza]

Also, young people are screwed. They get very low wages, often have no job security and their perspective of having a stable work/family life are slim to none. Our young generations don't have a future, and many want out. Going to Germany is an idea for many. The Goethe Institut recorded an increase of 300% of the number of unemployed people registering themselves to learn German, so that they can go to Germany.

Did they study engineering?

[Zanza]

What's the definition of Y and X?

Roughly the generations born before 1980 and after 1980.

[bogh]

Heh. Being born mid 1979, I was unsure of my category...

[bogh]

Well, to answer the original question;

I can't really tell a difference between the Xs and Ys. Plenty of variation in both groups. If anything, the more recent graduates are more focused and have done less dicking about then my generation (since rules are stricter and requirements are higher) when it comes to education. I have no qualms about filling my currently vacant positions with younger people. I am probably just not quite old enough to be really cranky yet.

[The Brain]

Guys younger than me haven't done military service. Which kind of says it all.

[HVC]

Guys younger than me haven't done military service. Which kind of says it all.

Swedish army? They didn't miss much

[The Brain]

Guys younger than me haven't done military service. Which kind of says it all.

Swedish army? They didn't miss much

FUCK YOU

[HVC]

Guys younger than me haven't done military service. Which kind of says it all.

Swedish army? They didn't miss much

FUCK YOU

i am not wearing a sheep custom for you... again

[dps]

The last American generation that was hardworking, as a group, was the generation that was born before WWII.  All the generations since then have been lazy, as a whole.  When you're hiring, you look for the exceptions, the people who aren't typical for their generation.

[Legbiter]

The last American generation that was hardworking, as a group, was the generation that was born before WWII.  All the generations since then have been lazy, as a whole.  When you're hiring, you look for the exceptions, the people who aren't typical for their generation.

Hell, I had my first real 8 hour job when I was 13 shoveling horseshit for the entire summer. The only perk besides pay was horse riding when the owners went home for the day. 

[CountDeMoney]

Yeah. What I think is one of the reasons is that people expect their pay to be a direct function of education/degree, which is simply not the case.

I'd rather hire someone without a degree with 5 years' experience on the job or a freshly-minted DD-214 than someone with a degree right out of college whose only experience the last 5 years was date rape and sleeping in their own beer bong vomit.

Are people you hire among the best paid individuals in your country?

It's a Fortune 150 company, so they make decent bank for what they do.  Ergo, they usually wind up hiring the date rapists and vomit sleepers.  That's why our HR changed their name to "Talent Acquisition".

[Monoriu]

I've said it before and I'll say it again.  We prefer fresh graduates.  They stick around for the next 30 years.  People with 5 years of experience all leave in droves within the first year, if not the first month. 

[Monoriu]

That's why our HR changed their name to "Talent Acquisition".

[CountDeMoney]

That's why our HR changed their name to "Talent Acquisition".

Ahhh, yup.