Arizona Shooting Conspiracy Theorists

[jimmy olsen]

Fucked up.

http://www.nytimes.com/2011/05/25/us/25tucson.html?_r=1&partner=rss&emc=rss

Hoax Site Distressing for Victims of Shooting
By MARC LACEY
Published: May 24, 2011

TUCSON — Television images of the chaotic scene after the Jan. 8 shootings here do not convince them. Neither do the funerals for the deceased, the scars of the wounded or the federal prosecution of the man accused of being the gunman.

Some conspiracy Web sites are claiming that the shootings that nearly killed Representative Gabrielle Giffords and did end the lives of a federal judge, a 9-year-old girl and four others never actually took place. One particularly bizarre site, run by a Texas man, says it was all a government hoax that used actors.

Such obviously fantastic claims would usually not merit the attention of law enforcement, but they have in this instance because some believers have been confronting, and alarming, some of the people associated with the case in recent weeks.

Richard Kastigar, investigative chief of the Pima County Sheriff's Department, said he passed information about the Web site to his intelligence unit. He reacted angrily to those denying the shootings. "There were bodies sent to the morgue, people's loved ones," Mr. Kastigar said.

Manuel J. Johnson, a spokesman for the F.B.I., said the bureau was aware of the site, but he declined to say whether an investigation was under way. One shooting victim said he notified the F.B.I. recently after two men showed up at his Tucson home claiming to be investigators and saying they were trying to determine whether the shooting was a hoax.

"They tried to get into my home," said the victim, who asked that he not be identified because it might attract more such visitors. "They wanted to know if I had any pictures. They said they didn't believe the event took place."

The victim said that when he pressed the visitors for identification, one of them presented a business card that listed the Texas conspiracy site, which describes the shooting as an exercise conducted by the Department of Homeland Security. Other people connected to the case, including hospital personnel, victims' relatives and possible trial witnesses, have received similar visits or seen their images on the Web site, officials said.

The site, which solicits donations from visitors to help with its "investigation," shows pictures of people who appeared on television after the shooting — including the suspect, Jared L. Loughner — and claims they resemble photographs of Tucson-area actors found on the Internet.

"We are only trying to uncover the truth and give the information to the Citizens," the site says. "We would love nothing more than to debunk our own theory."

Ed Chiarini, who runs the site, identifies himself as an inventor and Web entrepreneur. He could not be reached for comment.

The hoax contention did not surprise Benjamin Radford, a research fellow at the Committee for Skeptical Inquiry, who has written extensively on conspiracy theories.

"The bigger the story is, the more likely it is that someone will consider it a hoax," Mr. Radford said. "In my experience, there is no belief that is so absurd or self-evidently wrong that someone won't prescribe to it."

A version of this article appeared in print on May 25, 2011, on page A15 of the New York edition with the headline: Hoax Site Distressing For Victims Of Shooting.

[Razgovory]

Apparently these people also believe that Obama and Osama are the same person.  Typical Republicans.

[Martim Silva]

By the title, I thought Arizona had decided to shoot Conspiracy Theorists...   

[Eddie Teach]

Are you trying to start a new conspiracy theory, Martim?

[Caliga]

[Martim Silva]

Are you trying to start a new conspiracy theory, Martim?

Nah, don't need to.

The only thing I know is that, throughout Human History, someone somewhere has ALWAYS been conspiring to do something to someplace/someone. There is always a conspiracy somewhere, even if it does not bear fruition.

Thus, not believing in conspiracies is just as dangerous as seeing conspiracies everywhere.

[jimmy olsen]

By the title, I thought Arizona had decided to shoot Conspiracy Theorists...   

You must have been worried.

[Caliga]

You must have been worried.

[Grey Fox]

Of all the things to conspire about.

Noobs.

[Eddie Teach]

The only thing I know is that, throughout Human History, someone somewhere has ALWAYS been conspiring to do something to someplace/someone. There is always a conspiracy somewhere, even if it does not bear fruition.

Thus, not believing in conspiracies is just as dangerous as seeing conspiracies everywhere.

Not to one's mental well-being.

[grumbler]

By the title, I thought Arizona had decided to shoot Conspiracy Theorists...   

  Don't we wish.

[Razgovory]

Are you trying to start a new conspiracy theory, Martim?

Nah, don't need to.

The only thing I know is that, throughout Human History, someone somewhere has ALWAYS been conspiring to do something to someplace/someone. There is always a conspiracy somewhere, even if it does not bear fruition.

Thus, not believing in conspiracies is just as dangerous as seeing conspiracies everywhere.

Somehow I doubt someone is out there conspiring to put snakes under my bed.

[grumbler]

Thus, not believing in conspiracies is just as dangerous as seeing conspiracies everywhere.

Luckily, sane people recognize that there are more than those two silly choices.

[dps]

By the title, I thought Arizona had decided to shoot Conspiracy Theorists...  

  Don't we wish.

Indeed.

[HisMajestyBOB]

Giffords was brought down by controlled demolition!