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Started by MadImmortalMan, May 17, 2011, 01:18:23 PM

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MadImmortalMan

#601
July 22, 2011, 05:09:01 PM
Senate has voted down CC&B. 51-46

Closer than I expected, but then it was a safe vote for the GOP members. No threat, but still appease the ranting mobs back home.
"Stability is destabilizing." --Hyman Minsky

"Complacency can be a self-denying prophecy."
"We have nothing to fear but lack of fear itself." --Larry Summers

derspiess

#602
July 22, 2011, 05:14:58 PM
Quote from: MadImmortalMan on July 22, 2011, 05:09:01 PM
Senate has voted down CC&B. 51-46

Closer than I expected, but then it was a safe vote for the GOP members. No threat, but still appease the ranting mobs back home.

McCain didn't vote :hmm:
"If you can play a guitar and harmonica at the same time, like Bob Dylan or Neil Young, you're a genius. But make that extra bit of effort and strap some cymbals to your knees, suddenly people want to get the hell away from you."  --Rich Hall

grumbler

#603
July 22, 2011, 05:17:23 PM
Quote from: MadImmortalMan on July 22, 2011, 05:09:01 PM
Senate has voted down CC&B. 51-46

Closer than I expected, but then it was a safe vote for the GOP members. No threat, but still appease the ranting mobs back home.
I must admit that I found it amusing that the Republicans were willing to pretend that they could, by majority vote, force the Congress to promise to pass legislation that would require a 2/3 vote.

I think we have time for some more grandstanding before the adults have to take away the kiddie's toys.  Maybe the Republicans can whip up a bill that promises to pass a constitutional amendment to allow states to secede if taxes go up.
The future is all around us, waiting, in moments of transition, to be born in moments of revelation. No one knows the shape of that future or where it will take us. We know only that it is always born in pain.   -G'Kar

Bayraktar!

MadImmortalMan

#604
July 22, 2011, 05:18:22 PM
Obama is doing a pc now. Apparently, it's Boehner's turn to walk away from negotiations. He's going to talk to the Senate without Obama there.
"Stability is destabilizing." --Hyman Minsky

"Complacency can be a self-denying prophecy."
"We have nothing to fear but lack of fear itself." --Larry Summers

MadImmortalMan

#605
July 22, 2011, 05:19:14 PM
The Presidential gray hair curse has got Barack already.
"Stability is destabilizing." --Hyman Minsky

"Complacency can be a self-denying prophecy."
"We have nothing to fear but lack of fear itself." --Larry Summers

Admiral Yi

#606
July 22, 2011, 05:34:42 PM
I thought he had put something like 4 billion in cuts on the table just a little while ago. :huh:

MadImmortalMan

#607
July 22, 2011, 05:36:41 PM Last Edit: July 22, 2011, 05:40:05 PM by MadImmortalMan





Ed: Aren't you supposed to capitalize "President"?
"Stability is destabilizing." --Hyman Minsky

"Complacency can be a self-denying prophecy."
"We have nothing to fear but lack of fear itself." --Larry Summers

mongers

#608
July 22, 2011, 05:40:00 PM
Quote from: MadImmortalMan on July 22, 2011, 05:36:41 PM


So he's saying the President is a communist ?
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grumbler

#610
July 22, 2011, 05:44:36 PM
Quote from: Admiral Yi on July 22, 2011, 05:34:42 PM
I thought he had put something like 4 billion in cuts on the table just a little while ago. :huh:
Boehner did an Arafat on those negotiations, as he now has for the smaller package.

I think he is terrified about what his caucus might do to him if he was reasonable.

I think that what we are going to end up with is a naked vote on the debt ceiling.
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Fate

#611
July 22, 2011, 05:45:04 PM
Where do you get communist from that?  :rolleyes:

Anyway Boehner answers crazy canuck's question: "... As a former small businessman, I know tax increases destroy jobs." Democrats have never presented an effective counter argument.

grumbler

#612
July 22, 2011, 05:46:12 PM
Quote from: crazy canuck on July 22, 2011, 05:44:16 PM
Question is Grumber, where are the adults?
In the White House for the Democrats and the Senate for the Republicans.
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Bayraktar!

MadImmortalMan

#613
July 22, 2011, 05:47:44 PM
Quote from: crazy canuck on July 22, 2011, 05:44:16 PM
Question is Grumber, where are the adults?

In the Senate, hopefully.

There's been buzz that Obama has been very rude in these talks. I don't know how true that is. We know from the past that his style can sometimes be abrasive (remember "I Won"), so I don't completely disbelieve it.
"Stability is destabilizing." --Hyman Minsky

"Complacency can be a self-denying prophecy."
"We have nothing to fear but lack of fear itself." --Larry Summers

Fate

#614
July 22, 2011, 05:48:48 PM
Quote from: MadImmortalMan on July 22, 2011, 05:47:44 PM
Quote from: crazy canuck on July 22, 2011, 05:44:16 PM
Question is Grumber, where are the adults?

In the Senate, hopefully.

There's been buzz that Obama has been very rude in these talks. I don't know how true that is. We know from the past that his style can sometimes be abrasive (remember "I Won"), so I don't completely disbelieve it.

The President was rude, therefore we're going to send the Republic off a cliff!  :hmm:
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