How Many Mississippi Voters Wish the South Had Won the Civil War?

Started by jimmy olsen, April 28, 2011, 09:49:17 PM

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Quote from: Valmy on April 28, 2011, 10:57:21 PM
Quote from: Lettow77 on April 28, 2011, 10:20:34 PM
also, it's disheartening y'all actually speak approvingly of attacking people who support breaking off from the union- whither democracy?

In 1861 55% of the population of Mississippi were slaves.  Real Democratic there.

To be fair, in 1861 roughly half the people in every Union state (Confederate too, of course) were women, and couldn't vote either.  :P

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Quote from: Lettow77 on April 28, 2011, 11:01:25 PM
They weren't citizens of the state- they had no role in the democracy, and were hardly unique in this respect.
The denizens of the South had declared themselves non-citizens of the US in declaring themselves independent, and so had no role in democracy any longer.  Therefor it wasn't a violation of democracy to reclaim national territory from them.
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Quote from: Siege on April 28, 2011, 10:08:43 PM
Hey, I am living in Tennesse!
Fort Campbell is right in thee border between Tennesse and Kentucky.

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Quote from: Lettow77 on April 28, 2011, 09:58:43 PM
The South has fallen pretty far to come up with only these numbers, but this is enough patriots to form the basis for independence.
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Razgovory

Quote from: Siege on April 28, 2011, 11:41:57 PM
Quote from: Lettow77 on April 28, 2011, 11:23:41 PM
That's quite fine. I am a gentleman of letters- I could die bravely, I think, but I would never be a good soldier. Not enough discipline, or physical endurance either.

I think with some preparation I sure could get through basic, but i'll leave the posturing to you. You are one of this century's valiant warriors, after all :3

Actually, I see myself as a last century soldier.
I do not consider myself a warrior, since "warrior" in my original little corner of the world mean undisciplined dudes with weapons.
I am a professional of the sword, I do this for a living. I am a professional soldier.
I live by the rules, the "profession of arms", and the US Army values.

Can you survive basic training?
Of course. It is not that hard.
It is your mental actitud which I doubt.
You see, there is no room for the Confederancy in the real world.
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You will be either be willing to fucking DIE for your fellow soldiers, to your left or right,
or you will descend into shit and drugs and find yourself chaptered out of the Army
with an dishonorable discharge, with no benefits and no GI Bill.

Oh come now, lots of people muddle through the army.  Not everyone is on the front lines fighting.  Still, I think the physical exertion and regimentation my do his mind some good.  Clear some of the cobwebs and help him focus on other stuff.
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derspiess

Quote from: Lettow77 on April 28, 2011, 09:58:43 PM
The South has fallen pretty far to come up with only these numbers, but this is enough patriots to form the basis for independence.

Likewise, going by the handful of Mississippians I know (Scippy being the lone exception), I'm surprised it's not worse than this.

For those that did wish the South had won, I think that's just some residual sentimentality and an expression of regional pride more than a deep-seeded desire for a Confederacy.  I think if most of them thought through all the ramifications (or were forced to live through them), they'd be less likely to long for it.

I do get a kick out of having a southern redneck-type explain to me how they reconcile their US patriotism with their propensity to fly or display the confederate flag. 

Btw, with all the controversy surrounding the confederate flag, I think a great compromise would be for southerners to switch to the actual first national flag ("Stars & Bars") of the Confederacy rather than the battle flag.  That way, they'd still get to display their Confederate pride or whatever, and hardly anyone else would have a clue as to what the hell the flag represents.
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Quote from: derspiess on April 29, 2011, 10:05:05 AM
Btw, with all the controversy surrounding the confederate flag, I think a great compromise would be for southerners to switch to the actual first national flag ("Stars & Bars") of the Confederacy rather than the battle flag.  That way, they'd still get to display their Confederate pride or whatever, and hardly anyone else would have a clue as to what the hell the flag represents.

This is exactly what Texas does for the 'Six Flags Over Texas'.  We never use the battle flag.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Six_flags_over_Texas
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Quote from: derspiess on April 29, 2011, 10:05:05 AM
Quote from: Lettow77 on April 28, 2011, 09:58:43 PM
The South has fallen pretty far to come up with only these numbers, but this is enough patriots to form the basis for independence.

Likewise, going by the handful of Mississippians I know (Scippy being the lone exception), I'm surprised it's not worse than this.

For those that did wish the South had won, I think that's just some residual sentimentality and an expression of regional pride more than a deep-seeded desire for a Confederacy.  I think if most of them thought through all the ramifications (or were forced to live through them), they'd be less likely to long for it.

Ramifications like Atlanta being firebombed by B-52s. :hmm:

I dunno, they have a nice aquarium, and a Six Flags.
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