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France threatens to 'suspend' Schengen Treaty

Started by jimmy olsen, April 23, 2011, 05:59:09 AM

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The Brain

Quote from: Warspite on April 23, 2011, 02:24:21 PM
Quote from: DGuller on April 23, 2011, 01:39:34 PM
Doesn't this treaty make any country's borders as secure as the weakest link?  Once illegal immigrants make it into a revolving door country, they're free to go to any other country that signed the treaty.
Yes but in theory there are meant to be common border standards, which are a precondition for joining Schengen.

And the standards aren't rocket science either. It's a simple albedo test.
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Norgy



Martinus

Quote from: Norgy on April 23, 2011, 12:05:00 PM
As far as I've gathered, the most likely two candidates for the presidency are no longer a left and right candidate, but a right-winger against a fascist in a dress.

The National Front has removed itself somewhat from its old self and is eating away at the traditional base of the Sarkozy/De Gaulle/Chirac party, which is rural France.

I have no idea what the socialists have done to make themselves a fifth wheel on the ballot wagon, but there you go.

The FN has appeal with their style of homegrown xenophobia and conservatism, since it is easier to forgive oneself when voting for a woman. That should be a cue for all right-wing extremists - nominate a woman, and get votes.

I thought Kahn has a pretty good chance.

Norgy

I have been reading: Fear-mongering leftist media.   :Embarrass:

The Brain

Quote from: Martinus on April 23, 2011, 02:48:46 PM
Quote from: Norgy on April 23, 2011, 12:05:00 PM
As far as I've gathered, the most likely two candidates for the presidency are no longer a left and right candidate, but a right-winger against a fascist in a dress.

The National Front has removed itself somewhat from its old self and is eating away at the traditional base of the Sarkozy/De Gaulle/Chirac party, which is rural France.

I have no idea what the socialists have done to make themselves a fifth wheel on the ballot wagon, but there you go.

The FN has appeal with their style of homegrown xenophobia and conservatism, since it is easier to forgive oneself when voting for a woman. That should be a cue for all right-wing extremists - nominate a woman, and get votes.

I thought Kahn has a pretty good chance.

Not a real person. :rolleyes:
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Zoupa

His last name is Strauss Khan folks.

A JEW! CDM! A JEW IS POLLING AHEAD!!!

And right after him comes Hitler-lite in a skirt  :blush:

Razgovory

"Folks" doesn't really sound like a Jewish name.
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Raz is right. -MadImmortalMan March of 2017


alfred russel

Schengen is a huge help for businesses--visa issues are a pain for businesspeople with less recognized passports. A member of a multinational from Mexico that needs to visit five offices on a european trip would need five visas, which is ridiculously time consuming.
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Martinus

Quote from: alfred russel on April 23, 2011, 05:42:29 PM
Schengen is a huge help for businesses--visa issues are a pain for businesspeople with less recognized passports. A member of a multinational from Mexico that needs to visit five offices on a european trip would need five visas, which is ridiculously time consuming.

I dont think non-EU nationals were the chief reason for setting up the system though.

alfred russel

Quote from: Martinus on April 23, 2011, 06:10:23 PM
Quote from: alfred russel on April 23, 2011, 05:42:29 PM
Schengen is a huge help for businesses--visa issues are a pain for businesspeople with less recognized passports. A member of a multinational from Mexico that needs to visit five offices on a european trip would need five visas, which is ridiculously time consuming.

I dont think non-EU nationals were the chief reason for setting up the system though.

Of course it is silly and time consuming for each internal border of the EU to be controlled as well.
They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety.

There's a fine line between salvation and drinking poison in the jungle.

I'm embarrassed. I've been making the mistake of associating with you. It won't happen again. :)
-garbon, February 23, 2014

Norgy

Maybe the EU should've made two Schengens. Suit Schengen, where gainfully employed people in clothes costing €80 or more per item were registered and allowed to go wherever they wanted, and Summer Camp Schengen, where the less gainfully employed street vendors, trampoline artists, pickpockets and pan flute players were sent off to the salt mines?  :hmm:


Zanza2

I don't think it's even operatively feasible to suspend Schengen. If you cross the border between many European countries you'll see that the old border posts have been dismantled.

Razgovory

It's probably not difficult to rebuild them.
I've given it serious thought. I must scorn the ways of my family, and seek a Japanese woman to yield me my progeny. He shall live in the lands of the east, and be well tutored in his sacred trust to weave the best traditions of Japan and the Sacred South together, until such time as he (or, indeed his house, which will periodically require infusion of both Southern and Japanese bloodlines of note) can deliver to the South it's independence, either in this world or in space.  -Lettow April of 2011

Raz is right. -MadImmortalMan March of 2017