The NEW New Boardgames Thread

[CountDeMoney]

Don't gimme that bullshit.  Most people can only dream about driving a motorized scooter everywhere.

[Delirium]

The scenarios are really fun and all, but wait until you play a campaign.

Actually, wait until you play the same campaign for, oh, the third time.  The first couple of times, you are going to make a big error in the second week or so and not realize it until week three.   

Played scenario 1, McLemore's Cove tonight and introduced a third player. Really good scenario, lots of space and interesting/frustrating choices for both sides. Easy to divide into teamplay too. It has been a while since I was this enthusiastic about a new game.

[Berkut]

What game are you guys talking about?

[Habbaku]

Battle Above the Clouds.

[Delirium]

I just had to get SJWII as well. Hesitating about the double preorder special at MMP though for Atlanta and RTG reprint. I will get them but it is a lot of money even at a discount, plus the extra punishment fees for outside EU imports is a killer...

[CountDeMoney]

Do it now. Plan ahead. Set up a jar in the kitchen, and toss your pocket change in it.  You'll be ready for that hit if you plan ahead

[Berkut]

If only GMT published GCACW....

[Habbaku]

They'd fuck up half the counters, issue an update kit 6 months later, and a 2nd edition 2 years later? 

[Berkut]

They would not be charging your first born for the game, more to the point.

I don't think I've ever seen any real evidence that GMT has an overall higher error rate than MMP...

[Habbaku]

I think the last few years have shown that GMT's error rate is significantly higher than MMP's.  I can count 3 major kerfuffles in GMT's recent past off hand.  I can't do that for MMP.

To be fair, GMT does put out a lot more product than MMP.

[Ed Anger]

Ugh, GMT. I'm sure they would add cards or make it about picking daisies.

[Berkut]

I think the last few years have shown that GMT's error rate is significantly higher than MMP's.  I can count 3 major kerfuffles in GMT's recent past off hand.  I can't do that for MMP.

To be fair, GMT does put out a lot more product than MMP.

Hence the term "rate".

Pointing out the you know about X screw ups at GMT is not actually evidence of anything other than that the error rate at GMT is greater than zero.

I am sure MMP has their counter screw ups as well.

GMT also pushed the envelope quite a bit more than MMP - they try different printers, different products with different make up, they have a radically larger and more diversified product mix. All that is going to lead to more issues overall, but I suspect the rate is broadly similar.

And frankly, I would put up with a higher chance of there being some issue if it means

1) The product is half the cost, and
2) The company is well known for always making good on their product, even if they do have the occasional issue.

[Ed Anger]

MMP stiffed me on the dice in their Cambrai game. ASSHOLES

[CountDeMoney]

GMT's games are printed in China, MMP's are not. 

Not much in savings when they lose so many units to shitty QA/QC, like all those Empire of the Sun mapboards that peeled from the shitty glue they used.  They do make nice boxes, though.  I've almost not minded getting three of them replaced from palette damage the last couple years.

Meh, GMT's positioning themselves to be sold anyway.

[Berkut]

So MMP is the Trump backed wargaming company?