Hot pink-toenailed boy in J. Crew ad sparks controversy

[HVC]

Developmentally normal children are adept at determining socially stigmatizing factors, regardless of their intrinsic value?

Yet another normal boy may want to wear pink and identify with it.

in ye olde times blue was a baby girls colour and pink a baby boys. not sure when it changed. Probably like in this example when a women really wanted a daughter and started dressing up her kid in blue.

[Ideologue]

Developmentally normal children are adept at determining socially stigmatizing factors, regardless of their intrinsic value?

Yet another normal boy may want to wear pink and identify with it.

in ye olde times blue was a baby girls colour and pink a baby boys. not sure when it changed. Probably like in this example when a women really wanted a daughter and started dressing up her kid in blue.

Something I need to look up is when it became de rigeur for women to shave their legs.  That may not be entirely arbitrary (there may be some selective advantage to hairlessness, and faking it in the phenotype is enough to fool the genotype responsible for the attraction), but it still seems a bit strange.

[dps]

Developmentally normal children are adept at determining socially stigmatizing factors, regardless of their intrinsic value?

Yet another normal boy may want to wear pink and identify with it.

in ye olde times blue was a baby girls colour and pink a baby boys. not sure when it changed. Probably like in this example when a women really wanted a daughter and started dressing up her kid in blue.

I read about that just recently, but don't remember where I read it, unfortunately.  The change was more recent than you might think.  Sometime around WWII, IIRC.

[Valmy]

Something I need to look up is when it became de rigeur for women to shave their legs.  That may not be entirely arbitrary (there may be some selective advantage to hairlessness, and faking it in the phenotype is enough to fool the genotype responsible for the attraction), but it still seems a bit strange.

It was done during rationing during WWII to make it look like they are wearing stockings I heard.  But I didn't fact check that so it maybe just a legend.

Anyway the hairlessness suggests youth and that is the advantage IMO.

[HVC]

Something I need to look up is when it became de rigeur for women to shave their legs.  That may not be entirely arbitrary (there may be some selective advantage to hairlessness, and faking it in the phenotype is enough to fool the genotype responsible for the attraction), but it still seems a bit strange.

It was done during rationing during WWII to make it look like they are wearing stockings I heard.  But I didn't fact check that so it maybe just a legend.

Anyway the hairlessness suggests youth and that is the advantage IMO.

And they used to use tea to dye their legs. Wacky 1940's dames.

Throughout the ages there have been different cultures that have shaved. Has to be more then just stockings.

[Ideologue]

Something I need to look up is when it became de rigeur for women to shave their legs.  That may not be entirely arbitrary (there may be some selective advantage to hairlessness, and faking it in the phenotype is enough to fool the genotype responsible for the attraction), but it still seems a bit strange.

It was done during rationing during WWII to make it look like they are wearing stockings I heard.  But I didn't fact check that so it maybe just a legend.

Anyway the hairlessness suggests youth and that is the advantage IMO.

When do women first get hair on their legs?  Is it not, like, around the same time as menarche?  Which is to say, around twelve or thirteen? : /

[derspiess]

Re: the ad, I really don't give a shit, but it seems pretty obvious that she pushed his "favorite color" of hot pink on him. 

Before Tommy was born, I was a little worried my wife would turn him into a big wuss.  Argentine men tend to be kind of effeminate, and I thought she might try to raise him in that mold.  Plus, she grew up in a female-dominated house and that's pretty much all she knew until we got married.

Little did I know that one of her biggest pet peeves would turn out to be little boys who act like sissies



note to teh gayz: none of the above has anything to do with sexuality, so don't even go there.

That's right!  Enforce those rigid gender roles!

If anything, I'm having to put the brakes on some of Tommy's masculine tendencies, lest I end up with broken windows, holes in the wall, etc.

[Neil]

When do women first get hair on their legs?  Is it not, like, around the same time as menarche?  Which is to say, around twelve or thirteen? : /

Didn't you guys have sex-ed in school?

You see, there's this phase called 'puberty'...

[Ideologue]

When do women first get hair on their legs?  Is it not, like, around the same time as menarche?  Which is to say, around twelve or thirteen? : /

Didn't you guys have sex-ed in school?

You see, there's this phase called 'puberty'...

They were rhetorical questions.

The point is, if it's hairless (or only vellus hair) there, the indication is that she's an adolescent.  It's a bit of an ephebophilic response, if Valmy is correct.

[Malthus]

Developmentally normal children are adept at determining socially stigmatizing factors, regardless of their intrinsic value?

In this case, though, it would be socially stigmatizing to *not* wear pink. 

[Neil]

When do women first get hair on their legs?  Is it not, like, around the same time as menarche?  Which is to say, around twelve or thirteen? : /

Didn't you guys have sex-ed in school?

You see, there's this phase called 'puberty'...

They were rhetorical questions.

The point is, if it's hairless (or only vellus hair) there, the indication is that she's an adolescent.  It's a bit of an ephebophilic response, if Valmy is correct.

Ephebophilia is extremely common, especially because it's been so heavily cultivated by our culture.

[Eddie Teach]

I think the fact that hair collects sweat and thus stink probably has a lot to do with it.

[Ideologue]

I think the fact that hair collects sweat and thus stink probably has a lot to do with it.

Well, that's why I shave my armpits.  Why doesn't everyone?

Ephebophilia is extremely common, especially because it's been so heavily cultivated by our culture.

I get accused of it all the time just because I like skinny chicks.  It's a bummer.

[Neil]

I get accused of it all the time just because I like skinny chicks.  It's a bummer.

Probably jealous faggots.

[Ideologue]

A possibility.