Game of Thrones begins....

[Josquius]

Yes... I echo what I said last time...they nerfed Valyria.
And the whole world seems so much smaller and safer that Mormont can cross half of it in his little boat so easily.

[Siege]

I've seen no indication that the Sons of the Harpy have any significant combat training.

you've seen no indication that a rebellious organization that attacks soldiers via traps has no significant combat training?

The most important man in the city walking about without an armed escort when the Sons of the Harpy are on a killing spree?  Another example of the writers of the show taking sloppy short cuts.  Now that they have moved well outside the narrative of the books they are not telling a very compelling story.

has an important man ever walked the streets alone without an armed escort and been killed as a result? also, he did not know the sons were on a killing spree because his reactions when the bells rang and people were screaming indicates that. his first reaction was to go help, which is very fitting with the character shown on television.

So are you saying Danny is Hillary and this is her Benghazi?

At this point, what difference does it make?

[garbon]

I've seen no indication that the Sons of the Harpy have any significant combat training.

you've seen no indication that a rebellious organization that attacks soldiers via traps has no significant combat training?

The most important man in the city walking about without an armed escort when the Sons of the Harpy are on a killing spree?  Another example of the writers of the show taking sloppy short cuts.  Now that they have moved well outside the narrative of the books they are not telling a very compelling story.

has an important man ever walked the streets alone without an armed escort and been killed as a result? also, he did not know the sons were on a killing spree because his reactions when the bells rang and people were screaming indicates that. his first reaction was to go help, which is very fitting with the character shown on television.

So are you saying Danny is Hillary and this is her Benghazi?

At this point, what difference does it make?

None?

[Martinus]

Decent episode last night, althought not as good as the previous one. Sadly, the Sand Snakes consistently seem to be the weakest part of the show right now, imo.

Having read a couple of reviews, what surprises me though is a general outcry about Sansa's marital night rape scene. I mean, what were these people expecting? We knew what Ramsay is capable of and it was pretty certain he will want to consummate the marriage the first moment he can even if he wasn't a psychopathic bastard - the show made a lot of talking how Sansa was never married to Tyrion in the eyes of law as their marriage was not consummated. In fact, given what we were given by Ramsay previously, I thought this could have been much worse for Sansa.

[Solmyr]

My wild prediction for TV Tyrion: [spoiler]He will become the show's version of Quentyn Martell, except successful. Dany will throw him to the dragons to be eaten, and instead they will like him. Possibly confirming him as a secret Targaryen.[/spoiler]

[Liep]

Decent episode last night, althought not as good as the previous one. Sadly, the Sand Snakes consistently seem to be the weakest part of the show right now, imo.

Having read a couple of reviews, what surprises me though is a general outcry about Sansa's marital night rape scene. I mean, what were these people expecting? We knew what Ramsay is capable of and it was pretty certain he will want to consummate the marriage the first moment he can even if he wasn't a psychopathic bastard - the show made a lot of talking how Sansa was never married to Tyrion in the eyes of law as their marriage was not consummated. In fact, given what we were given by Ramsay previously, I thought this could have been much worse for Sansa.

I don't know, but I imagine it's because it's much less often displayed on television than murder and as such still feels very violent and appalling. I mean, watch Irreversible and tell me witch scene made you most sick.

Also, here it's probably exacerbated due to Sansa's purity and function as being one of the very last hopes of a happy ending for the family we started out with.

[Norgy]

What strikes me about the TV series, is how much attention the general viewer is supposed to have paid to "get" everything that's going on.

Just to make sure I did, I re-watched season one and two. Varys' conspiracy is foreshadowed in season one. I totally missed that when watching season four. 


Liep, the only happy ending for Sansa I can see is her giving Ramsay handjobs.

[Liep]

Liep, the only happy ending for Sansa I can see is her giving Ramsay handjobs.

When I pressed "Post" I knew I should've used a different phrasing.

[Admiral Yi]

Varys' conspiracy is foreshadowed in season one.

Please elaborate.

[Norgy]

Varys' conspiracy is foreshadowed in season one.

Please elaborate.

Arya Stark is exploring the Red Keep with the dragons' heads and sees and hears Varys speak with someone in secret. It's after king Robert's untimely demise and the gist of it was that "they" needed to act quickly.

What confuses me the most, really is Littlefinger's agenda. He's been all over the place for four and a half season now.

[Admiral Yi]

Arya Stark is exploring the Red Keep with the dragons' heads and sees and hears Varys speak with someone in secret. It's after king Robert's untimely demise and the gist of it was that "they" needed to act quickly.

What confuses me the most, really is Littlefinger's agenda. He's been all over the place for four and a half season now.

I thought the first was consistent with Varys' stated agenda of maintaining order.

Littlefinger I see as an opportunist: maximize wealth and power by any means necessary while avoiding death.

[Martinus]

I think Littlefinger doesn't have a Grand Plan (tm) per se - he is just an opportunist that grabs any occasion that presents itself to him.

For example, I am not sure that he planned from the beginning to betray both Stannis and the Boltons to Cersei the way he did in the last episode.

[Admiral Yi]

I think LF is playing a double game with Cersei.  It would be very out of character for him to do anything else.

[Norgy]

I think Littlefinger doesn't have a Grand Plan (tm) per se - he is just an opportunist that grabs any occasion that presents itself to him.

For example, I am not sure that he planned from the beginning to betray both Stannis and the Boltons to Cersei the way he did in the last episode.

His Grand Plan, I guess, went to pot when Catelyn Stark died.
I suppose he also suffers from having been pointed at and laughed at all his life.

Some characters become more likeable, like Jaime (who was a right c-nut in the first season), but some just stay the same like Cersei.
Tyrion, for some reason, strikes me as the most typical human of the entire cast. Getting a bit tired of Danaerys, though. Those eyebrows.

[Martinus]

I liked Bronn's quip when Jaime says he will improvise, by the way.