Game of Thrones begins....

[Martinus]

Or to put it differently, Boltons in Game of Thrones serve the role of a "nemesis".

"Do you know what "nemesis" means? A righteous infliction of retribution manifested by an appropriate agent. Personified in this case by an 'orrible cunt... me."



They are there to hurt the characters we used to hate, so we stop hating them.

[Martinus]

What is even more silly than her ability to find Thoros is her ability to know that Thoros has Gendry to begin with.

I disagree. Divination spells allowing one to find a close blood relative of a person you are with is magic 101 in most fantasy settings. It's definitely much less ridiculous than breeding shadow assassins or raising the dead. You are just being grumpy.

[Martinus]

What is even more silly than her ability to find Thoros is her ability to know that Thoros has Gendry to begin with.

Or her ability to survive the maester's poison.  I, for one, am astounded and dismayed that things that could only be explained by magic are being done by a witch in a fantasy setting.  The creators should be ashamed of themselves.  This is even worse than the dragons' wings being improperly oriented to provide the proper lift required for flight, or how frozen bodies can move around as if they were thawed.

[Berkut]

What is even more silly than her ability to find Thoros is her ability to know that Thoros has Gendry to begin with.

I disagree. Divination spells allowing one to find a close blood relative of a person you are with is magic 101 in most fantasy settings. It's definitely much less ridiculous than breeding shadow assassins or raising the dead. You are just being grumpy.

Am not!

It is too conveniently specific, when there is all kinds of other information that Stannis could have used to much greater effect that he was no privy to that is considerably LESS specific. Like, I don't know, the knowledge that Tywin was about to kick his ass, for example?

I know, I know, the ways of the Lord of Light are mysterious, blahblahblah.

It makes the magic a deus ex machina, nothing more than a tool the writers will use to circumvent what makes sense. We need Gendry with Melisandre? No problem, she can just magic herself to him, and magic herself back to Stannis. Ta-dah!

Martin goes out of his way NOT to use magic in that fashion, and he is a better writer for it.

[Josquius]

How did she get there? It's medieval europe in a war fought by nobles. There is no front.

Its not so much a non-existant front that is the issue, but her passing through a few countries worth of ravaged land filled with enemy armies, bandits, etc.... in a very short length of time.

[Habbaku]

How did she get there? It's medieval europe in a war fought by nobles. There is no front.

Its not so much a non-existant front that is the issue, but her passing through a few countries worth of ravaged land filled with enemy armies, bandits, etc.... in a very short length of time.

Uh...what?  Presumably, the Brotherhood Without Banners is operating in the area around Harrenhall.  All she has to do is land at Maidenpool or thereabouts, then travel overland through the Riverlands.  It's a pretty short distance for a small group to go through and I imagine that "enemy armies" have better things to do than to be on the look out for a red witch that they don't know exists or is even traveling in their area.

[Martinus]

What is even more silly than her ability to find Thoros is her ability to know that Thoros has Gendry to begin with.

I disagree. Divination spells allowing one to find a close blood relative of a person you are with is magic 101 in most fantasy settings. It's definitely much less ridiculous than breeding shadow assassins or raising the dead. You are just being grumpy.

Am not!

It is too conveniently specific, when there is all kinds of other information that Stannis could have used to much greater effect that he was no privy to that is considerably LESS specific. Like, I don't know, the knowledge that Tywin was about to kick his ass, for example?

I know, I know, the ways of the Lord of Light are mysterious, blahblahblah.

It makes the magic a deus ex machina, nothing more than a tool the writers will use to circumvent what makes sense. We need Gendry with Melisandre? No problem, she can just magic herself to him, and magic herself back to Stannis. Ta-dah!

Martin goes out of his way NOT to use magic in that fashion, and he is a better writer for it.

Well, Melissandre hints at few points that she could have saved Stannis's army but he did not take her with him. Perhaps she withheld some information from him to show him that he cannot succeed without the LOL (by the way I just realized that's the acronym for the Lord of Light).

I mean, I kinda get what you mean but as far as magic feats go, locating a nephew of the guy you fucked and used for magic before, and who (the nephew) actually has something that actively fuels your magic does not sound so outlandish, as far as mysterious magic tricks go. It's like a vampire being able to sniff blood at a distance.

[Eddie Teach]

the LOL (by the way I just realized that's the acronym for the Lord of Light).

That's not the term Martin typically used is it?

[Martinus]

the LOL (by the way I just realized that's the acronym for the Lord of Light).

That's not the term Martin typically used is it?

Dunno.

[Josquius]

How did she get there? It's medieval europe in a war fought by nobles. There is no front.

Its not so much a non-existant front that is the issue, but her passing through a few countries worth of ravaged land filled with enemy armies, bandits, etc.... in a very short length of time.

Uh...what?  Presumably, the Brotherhood Without Banners is operating in the area around Harrenhall.  All she has to do is land at Maidenpool or thereabouts, then travel overland through the Riverlands.  It's a pretty short distance for a small group to go through and I imagine that "enemy armies" have better things to do than to be on the look out for a red witch that they don't know exists or is even traveling in their area.

Mentally got my geography a bit mixed up. Not as far as I imagined, still a fair distance though, .
Its not just her, she had some of Stannis' men too.

[The Larch]

A small group (and they're one) can travel fast, my gripe with that is the relative ease with which they find each other. Magical GPS, that's where it's at. Anyway, I'm not really worried by that, "a red witch did it".

[Martinus]

Maybe all red priests are BFFs on Facebook and Thoros posted he is "resurrecting with Berric Dondarion, Arya Stark and Gendry the Baratheon Bastard near Harrenhall".

[The Larch]

Maybe all red priests are BFFs on Facebook and Thoros posted he is "resurrecting with Berric Dondarion, Arya Stark and Gendry the Baratheon Bastard near Harrenhall".

As shown in the "Order of the Stick" webcomic, all clerics are on Macebook.

http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0739.html

[Martinus]

Someone else has already thought of recapping GoT in Facebook format.

http://www.happyplace.com/23726/game-of-thrones-facebook-recap-season-3-episode-6

Amusing

[Queequeg]

A small group (and they're one) can travel fast, my gripe with that is the relative ease with which they find each other. Magical GPS, that's where it's at. Anyway, I'm not really worried by that, "a red witch did it".

The brotherhood are Rhlor worshippers. Presumably there's a network of sympathizers she can ask.