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Started by Josquius, April 04, 2011, 03:39:14 AM

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viper37

#2640
April 04, 2012, 03:45:17 PM
Quote from: Martinus on April 04, 2012, 05:39:46 AM
Renly fucks Loras and Margaery for the Tyrell support.

He didn't fuck Margaery, the marriage was not consumed.  That is the official version at least.  In the books they say he passed out too drunk, but someone also says Loras was the one carrying the naked bride to bed, as per their custom.

Ah, and Renly to Stannis about the girl:
Renly: -She is a maiden
Stannis: -And likely to remain so all her life if married to you.
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#2641
April 04, 2012, 03:46:18 PM
Quote from: Valmy on April 04, 2012, 02:52:40 PM
Quote from: Zoupa on April 04, 2012, 02:37:34 PM
The first few books are subtle, nuanced, intricate. The show is sort of lame and blunt. Good for you if you enjoy it :shrug:

Well I haven't seen it yet so I cannot comment.  And he broke no vows that I am aware of.

He breaks his wedding vows. I could have sorta understood if Mel told him "we need to have sex RIGHT NOW so I can birth a monster that will wreck your brother's chances". But no, he has sex with her expressedly for a son, expressedly breaking his vows, and all for what would be a bastard with zero claim as his heir.

It was lame and lazy.

Valmy

#2642
April 04, 2012, 03:47:23 PM Last Edit: April 04, 2012, 03:49:05 PM by Valmy
Quote from: Zoupa on April 04, 2012, 03:46:18 PM
He breaks his wedding vows.

That he made to Gods he just burned.

I was not aware Mel lied to him when she did it I figured when he had sex with her it was specifically to make the shadow monster.  Yeah not to crazy about that.  But again, I haven't seen it.
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viper37

#2643
April 04, 2012, 03:48:37 PM
Quote from: Zoupa on April 04, 2012, 02:37:34 PM
I feel it's lazy or cheap to write dozens of chapters and unanimous viewpoints telling us how Stannis always does what is Lawful Neutral, then turn around and have him breaking his vows because the chick says "ill give you a son!".

He's not doing it for pleasure, he's doing it for the future of the Kingdom, so he's not immoral ;)
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Admiral Yi

#2644
April 04, 2012, 04:34:38 PM
Do the books explore at all the theme of a gay claimant to the throne's dynastic ambitions?  Dude's is presumably not going to hand off the throne to his heir.

Razgovory

#2645
April 04, 2012, 04:41:24 PM
You can never please everyone when you make a film adaptation of a novel.
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crazy canuck

#2646
April 04, 2012, 04:42:15 PM
Quote from: Razgovory on April 04, 2012, 04:41:24 PM
You can never please everyone when you make a film adaptation of a novel.

One would have expected that they would have aimed for the larger audience and not Marti.

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#2647
April 04, 2012, 04:56:12 PM
Quote from: Admiral Yi on April 04, 2012, 04:34:38 PM
Do the books explore at all the theme of a gay claimant to the throne's dynastic ambitions?  Dude's is presumably not going to hand off the throne to his heir.

I think Renly figures on getting around to producing an heir at some point, but no rush.
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#2648
April 04, 2012, 04:59:21 PM
Quote from: Peter Wiggin on April 04, 2012, 04:56:12 PM
I think Renly figures on getting around to producing an heir at some point, but no rush.

Will he: close his eyes and think of Westeros?

Habbaku

#2649
April 04, 2012, 05:26:35 PM
Quote from: Zoupa on April 04, 2012, 03:46:18 PM
and all for what would be a bastard with zero claim as his heir.

Two bastards are legitimized in the series, or near enough to matter in one case.
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#2650
April 04, 2012, 06:08:50 PM
Quote from: Zoupa on April 04, 2012, 03:46:18 PM
Quote from: Valmy on April 04, 2012, 02:52:40 PM
Quote from: Zoupa on April 04, 2012, 02:37:34 PM
The first few books are subtle, nuanced, intricate. The show is sort of lame and blunt. Good for you if you enjoy it :shrug:

Well I haven't seen it yet so I cannot comment.  And he broke no vows that I am aware of.

He breaks his wedding vows. I could have sorta understood if Mel told him "we need to have sex RIGHT NOW so I can birth a monster that will wreck your brother's chances". But no, he has sex with her expressedly for a son, expressedly breaking his vows, and all for what would be a bastard with zero claim as his heir.

It was lame and lazy.
He's King, he can legitimize it anytime he wants.
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katmai

#2651
April 04, 2012, 06:10:58 PM
Why are you people arguing with Zoupa, he has shown in past he has shitty taste in movies.

Plus he's french refugee living in Canuckleland
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#2652
April 04, 2012, 08:12:55 PM
 :glare:

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#2653
April 04, 2012, 09:25:58 PM
Tu méritais celle la. Subtility doesn't make good tv.
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#2654
April 04, 2012, 10:00:58 PM
Quote from: katmai on April 04, 2012, 10:00:59 AM
It's okay Berkie. Unless Neil/moldy or seedy overturn it he won't be posting here till next Monday.

Who is Moldy?


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