Game of Thrones begins....

[Viking]

That. Plus it was a delicious deconstruction of the Inigo Montoya trope.

Hello. My name is Oberyn Martell. You killed my sister. Prepare to die?

Yeah. It gets subverted because he dies himself.

Gregor Clegaine might not have 6 fingers, but he is 8 feet.

[viper37]

I didn't think Oberyn intended to win.  Or at least didn't think he would have.  I thought his goal was make Clegane die in agony from poison.  Don't know what you are talking about "in a real battle".  Human beings are funny.  Sometimes one blow is enough to kill a full grown man.  Some times a person can take dozens of stab wounds and survive.  It can be hard to kill a person.  In a melee battle between two armored opponents it would be hard to tell which blows are fatal and which aren't.

there's limited space of movement, one cannot leave the field until the other one is fully dead, you can't use objects around you, etc, etc.
It's a duel, not a battle in a war.

In a war, you could have little men with poisoned spears ambushing an army of knights and winning.

[Viking]

Trial by combat is not to the death traditionally it was until one side either yeilded (by yelling "Craven" which is french for something) or was dead or disabled. So you can lose by submission, getting knocked out, getting maimed or getting killed.''


But, yes, taking slow acting poison to a trial by combat seems silly unless you expect to be able to disable your opponent.

[Razgovory]

Yes, but they would often hang you afterwords for being an oath breaker.

[Martinus]

Trial by combat is not to the death traditionally it was until one side either yeilded (by yelling "Craven" which is french for something) or was dead or disabled. So you can lose by submission, getting knocked out, getting maimed or getting killed.''


But, yes, taking slow acting poison to a trial by combat seems silly unless you expect to be able to disable your opponent.

Oberyn was not using poison to win, but to make sure that no matter who wins, the Mountain dies.

[viper37]

(by yelling "Craven" which is french for something)

never heard this word in French...

[Viking]

(by yelling "Craven" which is french for something)

never heard this word in French...

OMG, you just set yourself up too easily... so here is the home run...

"the word craven is redundant when referring to frenchmen"

I suppose it is medieval french.

craven Look up craven at Dictionary.com
    early 13c., cravant, perhaps from O.Fr. crevante "defeated," pp. of cravanter "to strike down, to fall down," from L. crepare "to crack, creak." Sense affected by crave and moved from "defeated" to "cowardly" (c.1400) perhaps via intermediary sense of "confess oneself defeated."

[Eddie Teach]

OMG, you just set yourself up too easily... so here is the home run...

"the word craven is redundant when referring to frenchmen"

You were thrown out at 3rd trying to stretch that one.

[Siege]

Stop hijacking the thread talking about the french.
They are not important.

So, was Lord Commander Mormont a half-skinchanger?
Where ever he went, his raven went first.

[Razgovory]

Stop hijacking the thread talking about the french.
They are not important.

So, was Lord Commander Mormont a half-skinchanger?
Where ever he went, his raven went first.

The books are modeled on the actions of French speakers.

[Siege]

Also, is the moon of Westeros smaller than our moon?
There are several references to the sky full of stars with the moon out.
Jon Snow said he never seen so many stars, and he talks about the moon in the smae sentence.

Is the moonmaid another moon or a big star?

Is there a frozen continent North of Essa (eastern continent)?

[Siege]

Stop hijacking the thread talking about the french.
They are not important.

So, was Lord Commander Mormont a half-skinchanger?
Where ever he went, his raven went first.

The books are modeled on the actions of French speakers.

What? The Anjous?
No way.

[Razgovory]

Well probably not.  I think the English nobility were already speaking English as their primary language by the 15th century, though I think laws were still written in French during the time of Richard III.  Still most of them probably knew French, and some may spoken French and not English.

[Viking]

So, was Lord Commander Mormont a half-skinchanger?
Where ever he went, his raven went first.

We don't know.

[Viking]

Is there a frozen continent North of Essa (eastern continent)?

It's called Ibben