Game of Thrones begins....

[The Larch]

I think Cersei is perfect.

Yes but you are gay so you can have no idea

I'm not and I also think she's great. What's the problem with her, that she is not a top model beauty (or pornstar, fi you're Viking)?

[Tamas]

I think Cersei is perfect.

Yes but you are gay so you can have no idea

I'm not and I also think she's great. What's the problem with her, that she is not a top model beauty (or pornstar, fi you're Viking)?

She is pretty far from the überhottness which was attributed to her in the books, not just by actual looks which wouldn't be that bad, but the character comes through as a frigid piece of rock. Which Cersei definetly was not. She fucked her cusin to pass the time ffs.

[The Larch]

I think Cersei is perfect.

Yes but you are gay so you can have no idea

I'm not and I also think she's great. What's the problem with her, that she is not a top model beauty (or pornstar, fi you're Viking)?

She is pretty far from the überhottness which was attributed to her in the books, not just by actual looks which wouldn't be that bad, but the character comes through as a frigid piece of rock. Which Cersei definetly was not. She fucked her cusin to pass the time ffs.

Book Cersei also came across as pretty frigid in public, and only opened up, figuratively and literally in private and with the people she trusted. Lancel will become her object of desire  next season, I guess. As for the hotness I think that Headey is pretty hot and fills the part well in that sense and in the given context. Eye of the beholder and all that.

[Martinus]

Yeah, it's retarded how nerds rage about a mother of three living in a medieval world is not as hot as a super model. Fucking tards.

[Tamas]

Yeah, it's retarded how nerds rage about a mother of three living in a medieval world is not as hot as a super model. Fucking tards.

If you have not claimed that you read the books, I would answer you.

Now I am just reminded how it is a total waste of time to try and have even the most remotely reasonable discussion with you over anything.

[Berkut]

I think Tamas has a point - show Cersei does not really exude sexual attractiveness in the manner you got the impression of her in the books.

On the other hand, I think the casting is fine - more than fine in fact, it is excellent. Martin has a bit of the nerd-geek goofy view of his heroic women. They are all pretty much either ridiculously sexual and gorgeous in some fashion or another, or plain and ugly. That is to some extent fine in a book, since your characters can all be whatever you want them to be, but a bit harder to find actual humans who can meet that standard. And, on top of that, actually act.

This applies to his male characters as well, of course. The mountain is 7 feet tall, Dhrogo is this perfect specimen of a man, Jaime is this amazing awordsman, AND incredibly handsome, Renly is the pretty Baratheon, Loras is the most gorgeous man in the world, etc. etc. They are all somewhat caricatures.

[Tamas]

I think Tamas has a point - show Cersei does not really exude sexual attractiveness in the manner you got the impression of her in the books.

On the other hand, I think the casting is fine - more than fine in fact, it is excellent. Martin has a bit of the nerd-geek goofy view of his heroic women. They are all pretty much either ridiculously sexual and gorgeous in some fashion or another, or plain and ugly. That is to some extent fine in a book, since your characters can all be whatever you want them to be, but a bit harder to find actual humans who can meet that standard. And, on top of that, actually act.

This applies to his male characters as well, of course. The mountain is 7 feet tall, Dhrogo is this perfect specimen of a man, Jaime is this amazing awordsman, AND incredibly handsome, Renly is the pretty Baratheon, Loras is the most gorgeous man in the world, etc. etc. They are all somewhat caricatures.

good point

[grumbler]

I think Tamas has a point - show Cersei does not really exude sexual attractiveness in the manner you got the impression of her in the books.

On the other hand, I think the casting is fine - more than fine in fact, it is excellent. Martin has a bit of the nerd-geek goofy view of his heroic women. They are all pretty much either ridiculously sexual and gorgeous in some fashion or another, or plain and ugly. That is to some extent fine in a book, since your characters can all be whatever you want them to be, but a bit harder to find actual humans who can meet that standard. And, on top of that, actually act.

This applies to his male characters as well, of course. The mountain is 7 feet tall, Dhrogo is this perfect specimen of a man, Jaime is this amazing awordsman, AND incredibly handsome, Renly is the pretty Baratheon, Loras is the most gorgeous man in the world, etc. etc. They are all somewhat caricatures.

I agree, and think that this was especially true early on.  Martin didn't switch from painting in primary colors to primary colors and pastels until maybe the third book.

Authors need some time to get to know their characters, as well.

[The Larch]

I think Tamas has a point - show Cersei does not really exude sexual attractiveness in the manner you got the impression of her in the books.

On the other hand, I think the casting is fine - more than fine in fact, it is excellent. Martin has a bit of the nerd-geek goofy view of his heroic women. They are all pretty much either ridiculously sexual and gorgeous in some fashion or another, or plain and ugly. That is to some extent fine in a book, since your characters can all be whatever you want them to be, but a bit harder to find actual humans who can meet that standard. And, on top of that, actually act.

This applies to his male characters as well, of course. The mountain is 7 feet tall, Dhrogo is this perfect specimen of a man, Jaime is this amazing awordsman, AND incredibly handsome, Renly is the pretty Baratheon, Loras is the most gorgeous man in the world, etc. etc. They are all somewhat caricatures.

Yup, Martin does love his characters with extremely exagerated features. Just think of all the characters who are exceedingly tall and strong: Both Cleganes (with Gregor being given a ridiculous 7 and a half feet tall height, or something like that), Robert himself (in the books he's described as hulking in his youth), Hodor, all the Umbers, Belwas the strong, the twin guards of Olenna Tyrell, etc, etc. Tyrion by contrast is a dwarf, also super smart, cunning and charismatic. Then you have the Targaryens and their otherwordly beauty, platinum hair and violet eyes. The super precocious wonderkids, all of them accomplished in some field or the other before turning 20. At the same time there are bunch of methuselahs like Maester Aemon, Lord Frey, Lord Tully still hanging around, despite theoretical middle ages standards of healthcare. The grotesque fatness of Illyrio Mopatys, the Manderlys, Belwas, etc. Maester Pycelle and his magnificent white beard. And so on, and so forth.

In a book is easy to fill a character's description with superlatives, but as you say that can't be fully translated into a real person who has to be beliveable portraying a character, so all the hyperbolic traits are toned down into something achievable.

[Valmy]

I just want to say I loved episode 8.  It is amazing how compelling a series on a book I have read twice can be.

[Berkut]

You know, everyone would have been better off if the Hound had just let his brother kill Loras.

[grumbler]

You know, everyone would have been better off if the Hound had just let his brother kill Loras.

How would Loras have been "better off?"

[Berkut]

You know, everyone would have been better off if the Hound had just let his brother kill Loras.

How would Loras have been "better off?"

OK, ALMOST everyone!

[Razgovory]

You know, everyone would have been better off if the Hound had just let his brother kill Loras.

How would Loras have been "better off?"

He wouldn't have had Marty fantasize about him.  Also, he wouldn't have had boiling oil dropped on him.

[Josquius]

NSFW LOL:
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