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Started by Josquius, April 04, 2011, 03:39:14 AM

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Valmy

Quote from: Martinus on May 24, 2011, 01:41:08 PM
Well you hunt a boar on foot tbh...

He just wants that special George Lucas special edition with more Imperial Walkers CGI'd in the background.

Alright ok yes a sense of the scale is thrown off a bit but I can live with it.
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Martinus

Quote from: Valmy on May 24, 2011, 01:42:36 PM
Quote from: Martinus on May 24, 2011, 01:41:08 PM
Well you hunt a boar on foot tbh...

He just wants that special George Lucas special edition with more Imperial Walkers CGI'd in the background.

Alright ok yes a sense of the scale is thrown off a bit but I can live with it.

Yeah I guess they could have just added like 10 random people walking in the background, and maybe someone with a horn or something.

Viking

Quote from: Valmy on May 24, 2011, 01:42:36 PM
Quote from: Martinus on May 24, 2011, 01:41:08 PM
Well you hunt a boar on foot tbh...

He just wants that special George Lucas special edition with more Imperial Walkers CGI'd in the background.

Alright ok yes a sense of the scale is thrown off a bit but I can live with it.

A few hunting horns and a few riders crossing the background might have made it a bit more "large scale".
I'll also agree that the tourney scene looked a bit like they borrowed the lists from a Renaissance fair.
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First Corollary - "You cannot have too many soldiers, only too few supplies."
Second Maxim - "Be willing to exchange a bad idea for a good one."
Second Corollary - "You can only be wrong or agree with me."

A terrorist which starts a slaughter quoting Locke, Burke and Mill has completely missed the point.
The fact remains that the only person or group to applaud the Norway massacre are random Islamists.

viper37

Quote from: crazy canuck on May 24, 2011, 01:34:30 PM
The show is becoming boring.  It doesnt capture the scale of the books.  The King of the Seven kingdoms heading out on foot with three others to hunt?  Instead of going low budget on that scene why not do what the book did and simply let the audience know that a big hunt has been arranged and then tell the audience what happened when the news of the "accident" gets back to the castle? As an added bonus we wouldnt have to see Renly coming off as a whiney little brother.  Its getting to the point I will be cheering when he dies.

The Tournament was a disaster.  There could at least have been some dialogue around all the events of the tournament and that all the knights of the Seven Kingdoms were coming to compete.  It would have been an easy thing to introduce concepts like the knight with the flaming sword in dialogue if they didnt have the budget to actually show it.  That kind of dialogue would have been a lot better than wasting time on Little Finger telling Sansa about the Hound - which was out of charcter and sequence.

Also, the heir to Winterfell goes off riding in the woods with his little brother to try out his new saddle with no escort - not even the wolves?

I turned it off when Sansa's scene started.  I might pick it up again out of curiousity.

I would like to quote myself, from page 71:

Quote from: Slargos on May 18, 2011, 02:14:19 PM
That he misses some major ones certainly shouldn't be surprising since he hasn't actually read the books.  :hmm:
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I'll come to it, given time :)
I want to see what's really different from the tv show.

At  some point, someone here is gonna come and say "this is ridiculous, the  author never intended X to be portrayed like that, I thought he was  more like "Y" or something like "I hate ghosts killing people, they are  ridiculous even if they are not green".
See, I can even read into the future now :P   
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Martinus

Anyway, as far as I am concerned, the tournament was fine and (while I have read the books a long time ago), I thought that the scene with Bran in the woods was similar to the one in the books, number-of-people wise.

The only one that seemed somewhat anti-climactic so far was the hunt.

crazy canuck

Quote from: Viking on May 24, 2011, 01:37:40 PM
cc - I suppose they are trying to conserve money for the long run. Apparently they are choosing to use the wolves as little as possible.

Probably but they can describe the scale with dialoge rather than showing it with poor results.

Viking

Quote from: Martinus on May 24, 2011, 01:47:50 PM
Anyway, as far as I am concerned, the tournament was fine and (while I have read the books a long time ago), I thought that the scene with Bran in the woods was similar to the one in the books, number-of-people wise.

The only one that seemed somewhat anti-climactic so far was the hunt.

In the book the hunt scene is a hunting party which gets split up as the main body is delayed and bran runs off with his fancy new saddle. The wolves intervene, but the bran as hostage scene is as it happened. I think using the wolves make the scene difficult to film. The point of the scene is to introduce Osha and plant the seeds of conflict between Robb and Theon as well as show the control the Stark children have over the violence of the wolves.
First Maxim - "There are only two amounts, too few and enough."
First Corollary - "You cannot have too many soldiers, only too few supplies."
Second Maxim - "Be willing to exchange a bad idea for a good one."
Second Corollary - "You can only be wrong or agree with me."

A terrorist which starts a slaughter quoting Locke, Burke and Mill has completely missed the point.
The fact remains that the only person or group to applaud the Norway massacre are random Islamists.

Martinus


The Larch

Regarding the small scale thingie, my guess is that they just didn't have the money. Rome suffered from the same issue. MY hope is that, if the series works well, they'll increase the budget for the next seasons. They have battles to show, and if they're on a relatively shoestring budget the Battle of the Blackwater is going to suck.

Razgovory

I'm really behind on this.  I've only watched two episodes.
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Eddie Teach

Quote from: viper37 on May 24, 2011, 01:47:27 PM
See, I can even read into the future now :P   
Tada!!  :D
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Josquius

Quote from: Viking on May 24, 2011, 01:52:38 PM
Quote from: Martinus on May 24, 2011, 01:47:50 PM
Anyway, as far as I am concerned, the tournament was fine and (while I have read the books a long time ago), I thought that the scene with Bran in the woods was similar to the one in the books, number-of-people wise.

The only one that seemed somewhat anti-climactic so far was the hunt.

In the book the hunt scene is a hunting party which gets split up as the main body is delayed and bran runs off with his fancy new saddle. The wolves intervene, but the bran as hostage scene is as it happened. I think using the wolves make the scene difficult to film. The point of the scene is to introduce Osha and plant the seeds of conflict between Robb and Theon as well as show the control the Stark children have over the violence of the wolves.

Trouble is the wolves are meant to become pretty important.
Yet they seem to have vanished.... :s
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viper37

Quote from: Peter Wiggin on May 24, 2011, 04:16:54 PM
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Josephus

Quote from: crazy canuck on May 24, 2011, 01:34:30 PM
The show is becoming boring.I might pick it up again out of curiousity.

Well, CC, lots of people think like you; (and not just in politics). Looks like the show's ratings are starting to dip.

http://insidetv.ew.com/2011/05/24/game-of-thrones-ratings-6/

'Game of Thrones' ratings dip
by James Hibberd
Categories: Game of Thrones, TV Ratings



Thanks for reminding me, Tweeps: Game of Thrones ratings are in. But they went down a tick for the first time, with Sunday night's premiere slipping a tad. The 9 p.m. airing delivered 2.4 million (compared to last week's 2.6 million). Most of the difference was picked up during the encore airing, with the night's total finishing at 3.2 million (compared to last week's 3.3 million).

Gotta say, I'm surprised, because of all the episodes I've seen, this was the one I was certain would post a gain given the story strength of last week's hour. But there was also plenty of sports competition and the Celebrity Apprentice finale on Sunday, so who knows.
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Martinus

Just watched episode 7. Shit hits the fan.  :cool:

Also: lesbian sex used as exposition.