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Started by Josquius, April 04, 2011, 03:39:14 AM

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grumbler

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grumbler

Quote from: Zoupa on May 27, 2019, 12:22:30 PM
They got our expectations quite high from the first 6 seasons. Seasons 7-8 became normal television fare, rushed yet boring, and full of plot holes you could drive a truck through.

I give season 8 a 5/10, purely because it was beautiful cinematography and decent acting with the scripts they were given. I don't care about "it's GRRM's ending". What was presented to us on screen was stupid and made no sense in the context of the world they had previously built.

The score was magnificent.  In fact, it is tough to chose between scoring and cinematography as the most outstanding feature of the series, but the first 25 minutes of the season 6 finale tips it in favor of the scoring.
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Razgovory

It made sense to me, and it fit with the overall themes.
I've given it serious thought. I must scorn the ways of my family, and seek a Japanese woman to yield me my progeny. He shall live in the lands of the east, and be well tutored in his sacred trust to weave the best traditions of Japan and the Sacred South together, until such time as he (or, indeed his house, which will periodically require infusion of both Southern and Japanese bloodlines of note) can deliver to the South it's independence, either in this world or in space.  -Lettow April of 2011

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Josquius

The ending made sense.
The execution was awful and made it seem dumb.
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The Larch

Quote from: grumbler on May 27, 2019, 09:41:31 PM
Quote from: Zoupa on May 27, 2019, 12:22:30 PM
They got our expectations quite high from the first 6 seasons. Seasons 7-8 became normal television fare, rushed yet boring, and full of plot holes you could drive a truck through.

I give season 8 a 5/10, purely because it was beautiful cinematography and decent acting with the scripts they were given. I don't care about "it's GRRM's ending". What was presented to us on screen was stupid and made no sense in the context of the world they had previously built.

The score was magnificent.  In fact, it is tough to chose between scoring and cinematography as the most outstanding feature of the series, but the first 25 minutes of the season 6 finale tips it in favor of the scoring.

Score and cinematography were truly great, yeah. They were outstanding amongst really excellent technical work, all the people behind the scenes earned their paychecks several times over.

Berkut

Quote from: The Larch on May 28, 2019, 04:43:16 AM
Quote from: grumbler on May 27, 2019, 09:41:31 PM
Quote from: Zoupa on May 27, 2019, 12:22:30 PM
They got our expectations quite high from the first 6 seasons. Seasons 7-8 became normal television fare, rushed yet boring, and full of plot holes you could drive a truck through.

I give season 8 a 5/10, purely because it was beautiful cinematography and decent acting with the scripts they were given. I don't care about "it's GRRM's ending". What was presented to us on screen was stupid and made no sense in the context of the world they had previously built.

The score was magnificent.  In fact, it is tough to chose between scoring and cinematography as the most outstanding feature of the series, but the first 25 minutes of the season 6 finale tips it in favor of the scoring.

Score and cinematography were truly great, yeah. They were outstanding amongst really excellent technical work, all the people behind the scenes earned their paychecks several times over.

With the exception of the writers.
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The Larch

Quote from: Berkut on May 28, 2019, 06:30:41 AM
Quote from: The Larch on May 28, 2019, 04:43:16 AM
Quote from: grumbler on May 27, 2019, 09:41:31 PM
Quote from: Zoupa on May 27, 2019, 12:22:30 PM
They got our expectations quite high from the first 6 seasons. Seasons 7-8 became normal television fare, rushed yet boring, and full of plot holes you could drive a truck through.

I give season 8 a 5/10, purely because it was beautiful cinematography and decent acting with the scripts they were given. I don't care about "it's GRRM's ending". What was presented to us on screen was stupid and made no sense in the context of the world they had previously built.

The score was magnificent.  In fact, it is tough to chose between scoring and cinematography as the most outstanding feature of the series, but the first 25 minutes of the season 6 finale tips it in favor of the scoring.

Score and cinematography were truly great, yeah. They were outstanding amongst really excellent technical work, all the people behind the scenes earned their paychecks several times over.

With the exception of the writers.

And the ones who had to take care of removing coffee cups and water bottles.  :P

viper37

Quote from: grumbler on May 27, 2019, 09:38:24 PM
Quote from: viper37 on May 27, 2019, 06:35:02 PM
Edmure was a turn coat, ultimately.

:huh:
He surrendered his castle to the Frey and ordered the Blackfish to be captured.
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I believe the alternative, as far as he knew, was having his baby catapulted over the walls followed by an assault or long siege that would have killed them all (and extirpated House Tully) anyway. Edmure didn't know that Jaime's conscience might have gotten the better of him or that Dany was about to invade, so it wasn't an unreasonable decision.
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Quote from: viper37 on May 28, 2019, 09:40:58 AM
Quote from: grumbler on May 27, 2019, 09:38:24 PM
Quote from: viper37 on May 27, 2019, 06:35:02 PM
Edmure was a turn coat, ultimately.

:huh:
He surrendered his castle to the Frey and ordered the Blackfish to be captured.

:wacko: Your definition of turncoat needs some work.
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Quote from: grumbler on May 27, 2019, 09:41:31 PM
Quote from: Zoupa on May 27, 2019, 12:22:30 PM
They got our expectations quite high from the first 6 seasons. Seasons 7-8 became normal television fare, rushed yet boring, and full of plot holes you could drive a truck through.

I give season 8 a 5/10, purely because it was beautiful cinematography and decent acting with the scripts they were given. I don't care about "it's GRRM's ending". What was presented to us on screen was stupid and made no sense in the context of the world they had previously built.

The score was magnificent.  In fact, it is tough to chose between scoring and cinematography as the most outstanding feature of the series, but the first 25 minutes of the season 6 finale tips it in favor of the scoring.
It has been fascinating listening to Ramin Djawadi grow and expand as a composer.  His work on Westworld has been magnificent as well.  A few thematic elements he tried out on Westworld seem to have emerged in Season 8's score, particularly the haunting piano dominated piece that accompanied the Night King's seeming victory during the Battle of Winterfell.
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grumbler

Quote from: viper37 on May 28, 2019, 09:40:58 AM
Quote from: grumbler on May 27, 2019, 09:38:24 PM
Quote from: viper37 on May 27, 2019, 06:35:02 PM
Edmure was a turn coat, ultimately.

:huh:
He surrendered his castle to the Frey and ordered the Blackfish to be captured.

Not willingly.  You DO know what "turncoat" means, don't you? 
The future is all around us, waiting, in moments of transition, to be born in moments of revelation. No one knows the shape of that future or where it will take us. We know only that it is always born in pain.   -G'Kar

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grumbler

Quote from: Benedict Arnold on May 28, 2019, 11:04:32 AM
It has been fascinating listening to Ramin Djawadi grow and expand as a composer.  His work on Westworld has been magnificent as well.  A few thematic elements he tried out on Westworld seem to have emerged in Season 8's score, particularly the haunting piano dominated piece that accompanied the Night King's seeming victory during the Battle of Winterfell.

H had some funny stories towards the beginning of the series about trying to sneak flute music into the score and how Benioff and Weiss always caught him (they didn't want flutes because they thought flute scores were associated in peoples' minds with the LOTR movies).
The future is all around us, waiting, in moments of transition, to be born in moments of revelation. No one knows the shape of that future or where it will take us. We know only that it is always born in pain.   -G'Kar

Bayraktar!