Game of Thrones begins....

[Grallon]

I won't be 'spoiling' anything but this was a much weaker episode.   One can see how they are now rushing to the finish line; there are huge plotholes, time discontinuity, etc.  It felt really contrived - think Bron in episode 4 & 5 - where he should have died.

Oh well, it will soon be over.



G.

[Josephus]

Bring back the nudity.

no,  I didn't write this

https://www.thestar.com/news/canada/2017/08/18/bring-back-the-nudity-on-game-of-thrones-teitel.html

[HVC]

The star is lucky a woman wrote that or they'd be in trouuuble

[grumbler]

I was kinda surprised they spent so much time on the Quest in the North.  Fan service, I suppose.

And the zombie dragon, as I predicted.  Now we know how the Wall will be destroyed.

I found the battle at the frozen lake very dissatisfying after the battles we've seen in the past couple of episodes.  The zombies totally surround them, and yet Jon keeps having them 'retreat."  Where are they retreating to, and why aren't zombies already there?  The whole thing just didn't work for me.

[HVC]

My only question is if the zombies burn doesn't a fire breathing zombie become self defeating?

[grumbler]

My only question is if the zombies burn doesn't a fire breathing zombie become self defeating?

I'm not sure zombie dragon breathes fire.  Maybe it breathes ice.  Brittlize (not a word) the wall and smash it (maybe that's why they showed us the zombie giants; those dudes can be hurling the big rocks that smash up the wall after the zombie dragon makes it brittle).

Bets on Dani dying trying to fly Drogon against the Night King on Zombie Viserion?  (I assume Viserion died because Jon has to ride the dragon named after his father, right?)  And then Jon Snow flying Rhaegal to put and end to the Night King and zombie Viserion?  Seems too pat to me, but the ending can't be happy, so I don't see Dani surviving season 8.

[HVC]

I think dani will die too. But I don't think it'll be in battle. My going stupid theory is that cersie will double cross them (of course) pissing off dani and leading her to go mad queen with the plan to burn kings landing and tyrion will take her out to stop it.

[Grey Fox]

Spoilers from the leak

[spoiler] suck it greyfox [/spoiler]

I hate how Grumbler is basically right about everything. He must be Martin.

[grumbler]

Spoilers from the leak

[spoiler] suck it greyfox [/spoiler]

I hate how Grumbler is basically right about everything. He must be Martin.

You had a reasonable position.

[HVC]

Spoilers from the leak

[spoiler] suck it greyfox [/spoiler]

I hate how Grumbler is basically right about everything. He must be Martin.

[grumbler]

I think dani will die too. But I don't think it'll be in battle. My going stupid theory is that cersie will double cross them (of course) pissing off dani and leading her to go mad queen with the plan to burn kings landing and tyrion will take her out to stop it.

I don't think Dani will die such an ignoble death - I don't think the fans would ever forgive HBO for that.

Yes, Cersei will double-cross Jon and Dani next episode, and I think Jamie kills her for it.  Next episode will then end with the fall of the Wall.  Dani won't die this season, but Cersei might.  The Golden Company will have to arrive before her death, though, and I'm not sure there's enough time in the next episode for them on top of Cleganebowl, Cersei's backstab, and the fall of the Wall.

[Habbaku]

At least the show is consistent about showing how bad a battlefield leader Jon is.

[Razgovory]

At least the show is consistent about showing how bad a battlefield leader Jon is.

Yeah, I noticed that as well. I'm not sure I'd trust him to run a bath.  I kept thinking of the battle of the Black Gate in the LOTR movies.

[spoiler]Having Benjen save Jon the second time and then immediately die felt kind of stupid.  "My long lost uncle showed up out of the blue to save me and I rode off on his dead horse okay let's not even ask". [/spoiler]

[Razgovory]

Oh, and is it just me or does it feel like the further we get away from the novels the more slapdash and generic this feels?  I'm kind of questioning the wisdom of the shorter season here.

[Valmy]

I know everybody is going to laugh at me here for even still feeling this way but damn this show just makes me wish we could get our hands on book six already. I realize I should have given up long ago but damn we only have two books to go I just feel like he can still do it.