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Who's the best President we never had?

Started by jimmy olsen, March 31, 2011, 02:06:17 AM

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Valmy

#30
March 31, 2011, 11:57:50 AM
Quote from: The Brain on March 31, 2011, 11:55:56 AM
Did he drive his little tank? :)

Driving his tank with one hand while letting scary black men out of prison with the other.
Quote"This is a Russian warship. I propose you lay down arms and surrender to avoid bloodshed & unnecessary victims. Otherwise, you'll be bombed."

Zmiinyi defenders: "Russian warship, go fuck yourself."

Sheilbh

#31
March 31, 2011, 12:43:54 PM
Quote from: MadImmortalMan on March 31, 2011, 10:50:14 AMI doubt there would have been much difference between an Al Gore Presidency and a GW Bush Presidency though. Instead of a failed SSA reform, we'd have had a failed environmental reform. Everything else would likely have been the same. Same wars. Maybe less international outrage over the wars due to the magic D.
I don't think Iraq would have happened.  No Rumsfeld running the wars and I don't think you would have had the US reputation so damaged by torture.  Not that Gore would have been good.
Let's bomb Russia!

Caliga

#32
March 31, 2011, 12:55:58 PM
Quote from: The Brain on March 31, 2011, 11:55:56 AM
Did he drive his little tank? :)
:lol:

That and Willie Horton killed his campaign. :(
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Caliga

#33
March 31, 2011, 12:56:54 PM
Quote from: Sheilbh on March 31, 2011, 12:43:54 PM
I don't think Iraq would have happened.  No Rumsfeld running the wars and I don't think you would have had the US reputation so damaged by torture.  Not that Gore would have been good.
I think Gore would have been better than Bush, but yeah not necessarily "good".  For starters, he has all the charisma of a cord of firewood.
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garbon

#34
March 31, 2011, 12:57:47 PM
:angry:

Hillary Clinton
"I've never been quite sure what the point of a eunuch is, if truth be told. It seems to me they're only men with the useful bits cut off."
I drank because I wanted to drown my sorrows, but now the damned things have learned to swim.

Savonarola

#35
March 31, 2011, 01:05:54 PM
Quote from: Caliga on March 31, 2011, 12:56:54 PM
I think Gore would have been better than Bush, but yeah not necessarily "good".  For starters, he has all the charisma of a cord of firewood.

Presidents who follow popular two term presidents in their own party tend to be weak (Taft, Hoover, Truman, Bush Sr.)  That's not necessarily a bad thing, but Gore would probably would have been a one term president.
In Italy, for thirty years under the Borgias, they had warfare, terror, murder and bloodshed, but they produced Michelangelo, Leonardo da Vinci and the Renaissance. In Switzerland, they had brotherly love, they had five hundred years of democracy and peace—and what did that produce? The cuckoo clock

jamesww

#36
March 31, 2011, 01:14:45 PM
Quote from: Caliga on March 31, 2011, 11:35:12 AM
:hmm:

I dunno if Dukakis would have turned out to be a good President, but I can confirm that he's a really nice guy who just seemed like a 'good' person.  When I was working on my PhD he was teaching at Northeastern, and one of my friends had him as a thesis advisor (I think he was in the 'Urban Studies' department which was right next to ours).  He used to come down and talk to us all the time about stuff.  He was just "Mike", not "Michael Dukakis", "Prof. Dukakis", "Gov. Dukakis", or anything like that.

I also used to see him in Boston's back bay train station fairly often as I think he took Amtrak to NYC a lot for some reason.  He didn't have a posse... just him and his suit bag.  When I was an undergrad, a group of my friends were riding the subway once and he got on and sat down next to them, and initiated conversation and talked to them about the Red Sox or something the whole time.

Also, he was good friends with the CEO at BIDMC (he used to work with him fairly closely when the CEO ran the Boston Harbor cleanup project) and I encountered him a time or two in the CEO's office suite meeting Paul for lunch or whatever.  He seemed to remember me from my NEU days.


Which is why he failed; what was a decent, modest, non-egostical man doing thinking he could be a national politician.

Habbaku

#37
March 31, 2011, 01:24:53 PM
Charles Hughes.  :)
The medievals were only too right in taking nolo episcopari as the best reason a man could give to others for making him a bishop. Give me a king whose chief interest in life is stamps, railways, or race-horses; and who has the power to sack his Vizier (or whatever you care to call him) if he does not like the cut of his trousers.

Government is an abstract noun meaning the art and process of governing and it should be an offence to write it with a capital G or so as to refer to people.
-J. R. R. Tolkien

Valmy

#38
March 31, 2011, 01:27:42 PM
Quote from: Habbaku on March 31, 2011, 01:24:53 PM
Charles Hughes.  :)

Robert La Follette!
Quote"This is a Russian warship. I propose you lay down arms and surrender to avoid bloodshed & unnecessary victims. Otherwise, you'll be bombed."

Zmiinyi defenders: "Russian warship, go fuck yourself."

Habbaku

#39
March 31, 2011, 01:29:50 PM
The medievals were only too right in taking nolo episcopari as the best reason a man could give to others for making him a bishop. Give me a king whose chief interest in life is stamps, railways, or race-horses; and who has the power to sack his Vizier (or whatever you care to call him) if he does not like the cut of his trousers.

Government is an abstract noun meaning the art and process of governing and it should be an offence to write it with a capital G or so as to refer to people.
-J. R. R. Tolkien

garbon

#40
March 31, 2011, 01:32:21 PM
Quote from: Caliga on March 31, 2011, 11:35:12 AM
He used to come down and talk to us all the time about stuff.  He was just "Mike", not "Michael Dukakis", "Prof. Dukakis", "Gov. Dukakis", or anything like that.

:x

I hate professors like that. Let's not pretend we're on the same level.
"I've never been quite sure what the point of a eunuch is, if truth be told. It seems to me they're only men with the useful bits cut off."
I drank because I wanted to drown my sorrows, but now the damned things have learned to swim.

DGuller

#41
March 31, 2011, 01:36:02 PM
Eugene Debs.

HisMajestyBOB

#42
March 31, 2011, 01:52:21 PM
Three lovely Prada points for HoI2 help

Caliga

#43
March 31, 2011, 02:05:13 PM
Quote from: garbon on March 31, 2011, 01:32:21 PM
:x

I hate professors like that. Let's not pretend we're on the same level.
:huh:
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jamesww

#44
March 31, 2011, 02:07:16 PM
Quote from: Caliga on March 31, 2011, 02:05:13 PM
Quote from: garbon on March 31, 2011, 01:32:21 PM
:x

I hate professors like that. Let's not pretend we're on the same level.
:huh:

Indeed.

I don't think the garbon persona would recognise the difference between real and fake.
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