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Crusader Kings 2 Redux

Started by Martinus, March 21, 2011, 08:36:07 AM

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Valmy

Quote"This is a Russian warship. I propose you lay down arms and surrender to avoid bloodshed & unnecessary victims. Otherwise, you'll be bombed."

Zmiinyi defenders: "Russian warship, go fuck yourself."

Razgovory

Quote from: Valmy on April 16, 2014, 10:01:14 PM
Crusading still seems sort of messed up.  The Pope called it and we all formed up and walked to Jerusalem but everybody went down there piecemeal so the erm...whomever is ruling Egypt just wacked us as we arrived.  Is there anyway to do a bit better short of just having enough troops on your own to take out the local Muslims?

I used to just hire the two crusader orders immediately and then use them to conquer the area.  I don't know if that still works.
I've given it serious thought. I must scorn the ways of my family, and seek a Japanese woman to yield me my progeny. He shall live in the lands of the east, and be well tutored in his sacred trust to weave the best traditions of Japan and the Sacred South together, until such time as he (or, indeed his house, which will periodically require infusion of both Southern and Japanese bloodlines of note) can deliver to the South it's independence, either in this world or in space.  -Lettow April of 2011

Raz is right. -MadImmortalMan March of 2017

Valmy

Quote from: Razgovory on April 16, 2014, 10:24:02 PM
Quote from: Valmy on April 16, 2014, 10:01:14 PM
Crusading still seems sort of messed up.  The Pope called it and we all formed up and walked to Jerusalem but everybody went down there piecemeal so the erm...whomever is ruling Egypt just wacked us as we arrived.  Is there anyway to do a bit better short of just having enough troops on your own to take out the local Muslims?

I used to just hire the two crusader orders immediately and then use them to conquer the area.  I don't know if that still works.

Ah ok that seems a bit gamey.  I only took the Templars with me and the others were all hired almost immediately.  I also took some other mercs with me.  I guess if I had hired every single holy order I could've won.  Can you do that?  I guess I will find out later.
Quote"This is a Russian warship. I propose you lay down arms and surrender to avoid bloodshed & unnecessary victims. Otherwise, you'll be bombed."

Zmiinyi defenders: "Russian warship, go fuck yourself."

Razgovory

Before you could hire Crusading orders with piety and not money and I would collect a whole bunch of piety, so when a Crusade started I automatically hire all the the orders and then conquer Jerusalem as a duke or count.  And the holy orders were were big units with lots of knights.  They could easily defeat any army and capture any castle quickly with 15k doom stack of knights.  Instant kingdom at no cost.  I don't know if that's still possible.
I've given it serious thought. I must scorn the ways of my family, and seek a Japanese woman to yield me my progeny. He shall live in the lands of the east, and be well tutored in his sacred trust to weave the best traditions of Japan and the Sacred South together, until such time as he (or, indeed his house, which will periodically require infusion of both Southern and Japanese bloodlines of note) can deliver to the South it's independence, either in this world or in space.  -Lettow April of 2011

Raz is right. -MadImmortalMan March of 2017

jimmy olsen

Quote from: Zanza on April 16, 2014, 12:08:51 PM
Get someone with a claim on the Georgian throne into your court and conquer that. Very easy and as it is a de-jure vassal, you get the whole kingdom as a vassal immediately.
My wife is daughter of their King. He's pretty old, so he should die and leave her a claim pretty soon.
It is far better for the truth to tear my flesh to pieces, then for my soul to wander through darkness in eternal damnation.

Jet: So what kind of woman is she? What's Julia like?
Faye: Ordinary. The kind of beautiful, dangerous ordinary that you just can't leave alone.
Jet: I see.
Faye: Like an angel from the underworld. Or a devil from Paradise.
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jimmy olsen

My King, who inherited at age 3 is now 30 years old, yet trouble looms on the
horizon. The Kings of Italy and Bulgaria are likely to rebel after he dies. Unlike
Dukes, you can't just revoke crowns. I think I may try to provoke them into
rebellion when my King gets old so I can crush them and then destroy their titles.

It is far better for the truth to tear my flesh to pieces, then for my soul to wander through darkness in eternal damnation.

Jet: So what kind of woman is she? What's Julia like?
Faye: Ordinary. The kind of beautiful, dangerous ordinary that you just can't leave alone.
Jet: I see.
Faye: Like an angel from the underworld. Or a devil from Paradise.
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1 Karma Chameleon point

Valmy

King vassals?  Oh Tim you committed one of the classic blunders.  You also have failed to take Georgia yet.
Quote"This is a Russian warship. I propose you lay down arms and surrender to avoid bloodshed & unnecessary victims. Otherwise, you'll be bombed."

Zmiinyi defenders: "Russian warship, go fuck yourself."

OttoVonBismarck

A few patches back with very large empires I actually found King vassals ideal as they simply never had enough power to defeat me in a rebellion and it was easier to manage relationships with 7-8 Kings than dozens and dozens of Dukes. I've tended to stop that from happening ever since they introduced the -25 opinion penalty from King level vassals.

Razgovory

Quote from: Valmy on April 17, 2014, 09:16:16 AM
King vassals?  Oh Tim you committed one of the classic blunders.  You also have failed to take Georgia yet.

It makes for a wild ride.  Particularly when you only grant Kingdoms to family members.
I've given it serious thought. I must scorn the ways of my family, and seek a Japanese woman to yield me my progeny. He shall live in the lands of the east, and be well tutored in his sacred trust to weave the best traditions of Japan and the Sacred South together, until such time as he (or, indeed his house, which will periodically require infusion of both Southern and Japanese bloodlines of note) can deliver to the South it's independence, either in this world or in space.  -Lettow April of 2011

Raz is right. -MadImmortalMan March of 2017

Razgovory

I gave playing a merchant republic a try.  It's very dull.
I've given it serious thought. I must scorn the ways of my family, and seek a Japanese woman to yield me my progeny. He shall live in the lands of the east, and be well tutored in his sacred trust to weave the best traditions of Japan and the Sacred South together, until such time as he (or, indeed his house, which will periodically require infusion of both Southern and Japanese bloodlines of note) can deliver to the South it's independence, either in this world or in space.  -Lettow April of 2011

Raz is right. -MadImmortalMan March of 2017

Caliga

Yeah, I never picked that DLC up.

Also, never got the Jewish one or whatever it's called.
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jimmy olsen

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Quote from: Valmy on April 17, 2014, 09:16:16 AM
King vassals?  Oh Tim you committed one of the classic blunders.  You also have failed to take Georgia yet.
It's not like I created the title. I inherited Italy very soon after the game began and couldn't afford to destroy it at the time. Italy was under gavelkind, so I lost that title to a younger brother. I put a claimant on the throne of Bulgaria. He got rather strong, so I weakened him by making one of his vassals the King of Wallachia. I've also put a relative on the throne of Hungary since making that screenshot.

The King of Georgia was a liberator who lived 'till he was 80. He had very few children. The current King is a child grandson, but there are only two or three claimants and they're all unwilling to move.

I've taken a duchy and a half of Egypt, and have healed the schism (Italy and almost all of North Africa was already Orthodox at the time). I just need to take another two counties in Alexandria and I can reform the Empire.
It is far better for the truth to tear my flesh to pieces, then for my soul to wander through darkness in eternal damnation.

Jet: So what kind of woman is she? What's Julia like?
Faye: Ordinary. The kind of beautiful, dangerous ordinary that you just can't leave alone.
Jet: I see.
Faye: Like an angel from the underworld. Or a devil from Paradise.
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1 Karma Chameleon point

Razgovory

Started a new game as a Count in England.  I'm beating the shit out of the vikings, if I hold out a few more years I'll be king of England.
I've given it serious thought. I must scorn the ways of my family, and seek a Japanese woman to yield me my progeny. He shall live in the lands of the east, and be well tutored in his sacred trust to weave the best traditions of Japan and the Sacred South together, until such time as he (or, indeed his house, which will periodically require infusion of both Southern and Japanese bloodlines of note) can deliver to the South it's independence, either in this world or in space.  -Lettow April of 2011

Raz is right. -MadImmortalMan March of 2017

jimmy olsen

Accidentally gave away the wrong duchy and didn't notice for two years. <_< Just waiting on the Tyranny to die down to take back my last county.

It is far better for the truth to tear my flesh to pieces, then for my soul to wander through darkness in eternal damnation.

Jet: So what kind of woman is she? What's Julia like?
Faye: Ordinary. The kind of beautiful, dangerous ordinary that you just can't leave alone.
Jet: I see.
Faye: Like an angel from the underworld. Or a devil from Paradise.
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1 Karma Chameleon point

jimmy olsen

Quote from: Caliga on April 17, 2014, 04:16:14 PM
Yeah, I never picked that DLC up.

Also, never got the Jewish one or whatever it's called.
Sons of Abraham has lots of expanded religious elements for Catholics as well. It's quite good. Plus your son can be demon spawn!
It is far better for the truth to tear my flesh to pieces, then for my soul to wander through darkness in eternal damnation.

Jet: So what kind of woman is she? What's Julia like?
Faye: Ordinary. The kind of beautiful, dangerous ordinary that you just can't leave alone.
Jet: I see.
Faye: Like an angel from the underworld. Or a devil from Paradise.
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1 Karma Chameleon point