Crusader Kings 2 Redux

[Valmy]

Ah that worked like a charm.  Thanks Tamas!

[garbon]

My king of England fell in love with his eldest daughter and sired a son.

[garbon]

Actually oddest bit is my daughter had been pregnant by her husband at the time. That child was born and then 10 days later my son-grandson popped out...

[Tamas]

you obviously installed a bugged pervert mod

[garbon]

Ck2+

[Fireblade]

[garbon]

So they finally got back to us:

Crusader Kings II: Legacy of Rome is a new expansion which will breathe a dose of hot, spicy, Mediterranean fresh air into the deliciously dark world of the critically acclaimed strategy/RPG, Crusader Kings II. The Byzantine Empire is receiving some tender loving care from Paradox Interactive and Paradox Development Studio with the new expansion pack, which will add a wealth of features to the game and build upon Crusader Kings' glory.

In the rich politics of Byzantium, you'll find your cranky and disgruntled vassals split into factions, which will band together in revolt against your rule (they're getting smarter)! Thankfully, your generals have improved to match them. Legacy of Rome introduces Leader Focus, with generals' skills carrying more importance than ever before. This may prove useful if you have any generals that are (I) competent and (II) not plotting to drown you in a lake.

As for the wealth of features, let's talk about wealth! You'll be able to appoint your very own Orthodox patriarch instead of depending on that miserable old patriarch of Constantinople, plus you'll have greater control over where you demand levies from your vassals, and, of course, indulge in new, Byzantine-specific events and decisions. You'll need your regent to be at the top of their game, so it's a good thing there are now Self-Improvement ambitions for them! It's almost as if not everybody in the kingdom is out to get you.

The last gasp of the Roman Empire is in your hands, dear leader. Try not to screw it up.

This second expansion pack for Crusader Kings II arrives Q4 2012 on all major digital download portals for the suggested retail price of 9,99 USD.

Crusader Kings II: Legacy of Rome Main features:
New Faction System: Join a royal faction and use your allies in the party to enhance your strength and tear down rivals
Raise Standing Armies: You will now be able to use retinues to have standing armies in your domain: the size of which is determined by technology
Experience Factional Revolts: No more easily defeated rebellions. Disgruntled vassals will now band together in revolt against your rule through their faction
Appoint Orthodox Patriarchs: Orthodox kingdoms and empires can now control their own heads of religion and their powers, instead of being dependent on the patriarch of Constantinople
Streamlined Mobilization: You will always raise a single, larger levy from your direct vassal; no need to worry about the opinions of the lower vassals
Leader Focus on Combat: Appoint your generals wisely, their traits and skills are now of vital importance on the field of battle. More commander traits are now added to increase the importance of your choice of military leaders
Byzantium Comes Alive: New sets of decisions and events specifically designed with the Byzantine Empire in mind
Improve your ruler: You can now actively strive to improve your skills or traits through the new Self-Improvement Ambitions

[garbon]

Actually oddest bit is my daughter had been pregnant by her husband at the time. That child was born and then 10 days later my son-grandson popped out...

Later once when they fell out of love my king gave her the newly conquered Duchy of Gwynedd. When the old king died, she made the mistake of rebelling against her brother and he imprisoned that abomination.

[Faeelin]

Fourth quarter? I don't know why, but I thought the DLCs would be coming a bit faster.  ::Shrug::

[Valmy]

I was hoping for a little more for the Arab and African Christians but that sounds like plenty of good stuff.

[Valmy]

Fourth quarter? I don't know why, but I thought the DLCs would be coming a bit faster.  ::Shrug::

That is alot of new features.  Lots of playtesting is probably required.

[garbon]

I mean October isn't that far away and it seemed unlikely that Euros would doing working for a release during summer.

[Faeelin]

Byzantium isn't "this great and awesome thing" among people who know it.  The vast majority-if they have an opinion-don't have a very high opinion of it. This includes, disastrously, almost the entire population of Turkey. 

Okay, I apologize; I meant within the Anglosphere. I don't know that much about the Turkish policy.

There is still systematic discrimination against Christians, and the last pogrom was only 60 years ago.

I don't mean to be rude, but to be honest this sounds like a bit of a double standard. Lots of bad things happened in Europe 60 years ago; plenty of languages in Europe are dying or have died; in the case of Cappadocian Greek and Pontic I am assuming they're dead because Greeks were kicked out of the region.

And it's not like the Balkan states haven't been destroying the Ottoman heritage with gleeful abandon. I think even your posts betray a bit of it; the Turks were barbarians who destroyed an incipient Greek renaissance.

You could make a pretty good case that without the Ottoman Empire, the Greeks would have just been subjects of a Venetian colonial empire, as they were in Crete and Cyprus.

Also, I think your insistence on using "Greek Kingdom" before 1204 is simply bizarre.  It's an Empire.  Large, multi-ethnic, centralized.  It's the direct descendant of the Empire that invented the word Empire.  It had 800 years of history.  Comparing the Komnenoi state  under John II or early Manuel with Siciliy is just bizarre.  It's not the Byzantines fault Ludwig had an inferiority complex.

Okay, this is a pretty weird argument to make. Roger II's state ruled over Jews, Greek Christians, Muslims, Italians, etc. This seems pretty multiethnic. The Holy Roman Empire ruled most of Central Europe and Northern Italy. Not always well, but I don't think you're going to claim the Byzantines did either. This wasn't a multiethnic state?

[Faeelin]

I mean October isn't that far away and it seemed unlikely that Euros would doing working for a release during summer.

I'm assuming December, but could be wrong.

[Barrister]

I wonder how many of those Byzantine-specific events would still work for the Latin Empire...