Hungarian Politics

[Zanza]

The company I work for invested a lot in Hungary.

What. The. Fuck.

The alternatives were Poland and Romania. But as several of our competitors already have invested in Hungary, the necessary infrastructure exists. And if Orban tanks the Forint, it will get comparatively cheaper too.

[Tamas]

My hopelessness (sp?) got to a new high just recently. It was caused by a quote from a piece. I will do my best to translate it:

"We are watched by cultured nations. They see our inability to progress, our bloating on samoyed morality; we are fiddling in the middle of Europe, like a piece of the Medieval left here. They see that we are empty and light, if we want to do something big we hit jews, when we start sobering up, we hurry to drink again from the cup of the sweet, colored-up drink of that thousand years old glory. They see that we are lazy and good-for-nothing. The stone castle of great nations, the parlaiment, is only good to be discredited. What will be the end of this, dear lords of mine? Because, I happen to be a magyar as well, not a 'pawnjew' as you mock everyone who is better than you. It will end by us being sent away, like we never was here."


Sounds actual? Yes.

Trouble is, it was written, 110 years ago, by one of our greatest poets/writers, Endre Ady.

[Martinus]

My hopelessness (sp?) got to a new high just recently. It was caused by a quote from a piece. I will do my best to translate it:

"We are watched by cultured nations. They see our inability to progress, our bloating on samoyed morality; we are fiddling in the middle of Europe, like a piece of the Medieval left here. They see that we are empty and light, if we want to do something big we hit jews, when we start sobering up, we hurry to drink again from the cup of the sweet, colored-up drink of that thousand years old glory. They see that we are lazy and good-for-nothing. The stone castle of great nations, the parlaiment, is only good to be discredited. What will be the end of this, dear lords of mine? Because, I happen to be a magyar as well, not a 'pawnjew' as you mock everyone who is better than you. It will end by us being sent away, like we never was here."


Sounds actual? Yes.

Trouble is, it was written, 110 years ago, by one of our greatest poets/writers, Endre Ady.

That's some shitty English translation.

And seriously, don't feel bad. History usually repeats itself but as a farce. You will have an operetta-style government for a few years and then things will go back to normal. If not, Warsaw is always happy to send in tanks, like in 1956.

[Tamas]

My hopelessness (sp?) got to a new high just recently. It was caused by a quote from a piece. I will do my best to translate it:

"We are watched by cultured nations. They see our inability to progress, our bloating on samoyed morality; we are fiddling in the middle of Europe, like a piece of the Medieval left here. They see that we are empty and light, if we want to do something big we hit jews, when we start sobering up, we hurry to drink again from the cup of the sweet, colored-up drink of that thousand years old glory. They see that we are lazy and good-for-nothing. The stone castle of great nations, the parlaiment, is only good to be discredited. What will be the end of this, dear lords of mine? Because, I happen to be a magyar as well, not a 'pawnjew' as you mock everyone who is better than you. It will end by us being sent away, like we never was here."


Sounds actual? Yes.

Trouble is, it was written, 110 years ago, by one of our greatest poets/writers, Endre Ady.

That's some shitty English translation.

And seriously, don't feel bad. History usually repeats itself but as a farce. You will have an operetta-style government for a few years and then things will go back to normal. If not, Warsaw is always happy to send in tanks, like in 1956.

lol screw you, our 56 revolts started with sympathy-demonstrations for some shitty opposition in Poland. You Polacks can't even do that properly

[Martinus]

lol screw you, our 56 revolts started with sympathy-demonstrations for some shitty opposition in Poland. You Polacks can't even do that properly

Well, we are the only one out of the "big three" of Eastern block vassals (Poland, Hungary, Czechoslovakia) who didn't end up with a Soviet military intervention and still managed to get one of the best functioning democracy and economy in the region. So I think we can do things properly.

[Tamas]

lol screw you, our 56 revolts started with sympathy-demonstrations for some shitty opposition in Poland. You Polacks can't even do that properly

Well, we are the only one out of the "big three" of Eastern block vassals (Poland, Hungary, Czechoslovakia) who didn't end up with a Soviet military intervention and still managed to get one of the best functioning democracy and economy in the region. So I think we can do things properly.

Speaking of which, I saw a headline somewhere today that there is a bill in the Slovakian parlaiment, which intends to fine everyone who dares saying nasty things about their MPs.

[Martinus]

lol screw you, our 56 revolts started with sympathy-demonstrations for some shitty opposition in Poland. You Polacks can't even do that properly

Well, we are the only one out of the "big three" of Eastern block vassals (Poland, Hungary, Czechoslovakia) who didn't end up with a Soviet military intervention and still managed to get one of the best functioning democracy and economy in the region. So I think we can do things properly.

Speaking of which, I saw a headline somewhere today that there is a bill in the Slovakian parlaiment, which intends to fine everyone who dares saying nasty things about their MPs.

Is news from Slovakia often reported in Hungary? I mean, we are also their neighbours, but I don't recall ever seeing anything about them in our newspapers - they are like a non-entity pretty much.

[Tamas]

lol screw you, our 56 revolts started with sympathy-demonstrations for some shitty opposition in Poland. You Polacks can't even do that properly

Well, we are the only one out of the "big three" of Eastern block vassals (Poland, Hungary, Czechoslovakia) who didn't end up with a Soviet military intervention and still managed to get one of the best functioning democracy and economy in the region. So I think we can do things properly.

Speaking of which, I saw a headline somewhere today that there is a bill in the Slovakian parlaiment, which intends to fine everyone who dares saying nasty things about their MPs.

Is news from Slovakia often reported in Hungary? I mean, we are also their neighbours, but I don't recall ever seeing anything about them in our newspapers - they are like a non-entity pretty much.

just funny trivia like this. Also they have a nazi leader who gains (considerable) popularity by implying that we are bent on reconquering them, and that their Hungarian minority is to blame for anything sort of bad weather. When he makes comments like "I'll drive tanks on Budapest!" that makes the news here

[Syt]

It's funny, the only neighbours that are regularly in Austrian news are Germany and to lesser extent Italy. Switzerland, and anything in the east hardly gets mentioned (Hungarian news are a bit of a footnote atm).

[Martinus]

It's funny, the only neighbours that are regularly in Austrian news are Germany and to lesser extent Italy. Switzerland, and anything in the east hardly gets mentioned (Hungarian news are a bit of a footnote atm).

We cover Russia and Germany (and to a lesser extent Ukraine) in terms of internal politics the most. Lithuania and Belarus get coverage when they mistreat the Polish minority or (in Belarus's case) when they do something anti-democratic. Czech Republic gets coverage when someone dies or their president blocks the EU treaty or something like that.

[Martinus]

Hungary gets a lot of coverage in liberal/leftist media here right now, but that's probably mostly because during last elections Kaczynski said he would like Warsaw to be like Budapest one day, so every time Budapest/Hungary becomes more shitty, it gets covered to make fun of him.

[Tamas]

Hungary gets a lot of coverage in liberal/leftist media here right now, but that's probably most because during last elections Kaczynski said he would like Warsaw to be like Budapest one day, so every time Budapest/Hungary becomes more shitty, it gets covered to make fun of him.

Sadly (since you have liberals running the show apparently in an okay way), Poland is like a non-entity in the news here. We cover elections briefly, and when something like the plane crash happens, but nothing else.

[Syt]

In Germany, I'd say France gets most coverage among the neighbours. Next would be Poland and Netherlands. And then it probably depends on where you live - e.g. up in the North you hear more about Denmark.

[Martinus]

Hungary gets a lot of coverage in liberal/leftist media here right now, but that's probably most because during last elections Kaczynski said he would like Warsaw to be like Budapest one day, so every time Budapest/Hungary becomes more shitty, it gets covered to make fun of him.

Sadly (since you have liberals running the show apparently in an okay way), Poland is like a non-entity in the news here. We cover elections briefly, and when something like the plane crash happens, but nothing else.

I wouldn't call our government "liberals", except perhaps in the classic sense (which does not mean "leftist"). Politically they are moderate conservatives, both on social issues and on the economy. They are closest to French gaullists, German CDU/CSU or the UK tories (but not eurosceptical). It's just when compared to PiS they seem leftist.

[Tamas]

Hungary gets a lot of coverage in liberal/leftist media here right now, but that's probably most because during last elections Kaczynski said he would like Warsaw to be like Budapest one day, so every time Budapest/Hungary becomes more shitty, it gets covered to make fun of him.

Sadly (since you have liberals running the show apparently in an okay way), Poland is like a non-entity in the news here. We cover elections briefly, and when something like the plane crash happens, but nothing else.

I wouldn't call our government "liberals", except perhaps in the classic sense (which does not mean "leftist"). Politically they are moderate conservatives, both on social issues and on the economy. They are closest to French gaullists, German CDU/CSU or the UK tories (but not eurosceptical). It's just when compared to PiS they seem leftist.

leftists shouldnt be called liberals they should be called socialists