Hungarian Politics

[Richard Hakluyt]

150 miles from Budapest to Vienna and they are in different worlds.

[Solmyr]

Just wait till the far right takes over Austria.

[Tamas]

During the election campaign earlier this year (which was all MIGRANTS and SOROS all the time), the state TV interviewed a Swedish woman with Hungarian origins. She spoke about how she has become terrified of muslim migrants in Sweden and decided to move to Hungary, and in general just how Sweden is descending to utter chaos and anarchy due to these unwashed masses of coloured people.

A journalist of a major news site look into it and found that first of all, this lady (in her late 30s/early 40s IIRC) has bought a flat in Budapest several years ago so not exactly a fresh refuge from the Muslim onslaught. And secondly, in Sweden she was found guilty in 7 counts of fraud of some sorts. All in all, he quite easily proved that the lady has a highly controversial relationship with truth and integrity in general.

Well, state prosecution has put the journalist's case against a judge now, on grounds of abusing personal information or whatnot.

They keep pushing for an Erdoganic system, one baby-step at a time.

[Duque de Bragança]

Just wait till the far right takes over Austria.

Still, if they take over Hungary after Austria that will be an improvement. 

[Tamas]

A rabidly pro-government, fairly recently (a year or two ago) created cheap tabloid:




The main, black part says:

"They have hidden in parks, small underpasses
How long will our patience be exploited BY THE HOMELESS?
Do they have to abide no rules?"


I guess with the Muslim hordes failing to show up at the fence, a new enemy must be found.

[The Brain]

Probably related to old beliefs in trolls that linger in the Eastern Bloc.

[garbon]

If they are hiding, what's the problem?

[Tamas]

Just so you see that entire Eastern Europe is like this (well, and the US of A nowadays):

In Slovakia at the start of the year there were massive protests that basically toppled the government at the time, following the brutal murder of an investigative journalist and his girlfriend. The guy was writing about the links between the Italian Maffia and the Slovakian ruling circles.

Now it seems the police had the young organisers of these protests interrogated, due to an "anonymus tip" that they have been funded by George Soros and have been conspiring against the state.

[Tamas]

Also the former Macedonian PM now under an international arrest warrant due to corruption charges back home, has fled to Hungary and requesting asylum.


Speaking of Macedonia, there was a glorious little episode noted by a few people, when the petty little pro-government (and fidesz-funded) "news" site, 888.hu (the main, and popular, liberal news site is 444.hu), was a little confused over what was happening during Maceodnia's civil disorder last year (when people stormed the Parliament):




The top on reads: "Soros' men have attacked the parliament of Macedonia"

Bottom one, 20 minutes later of course says: "People having enough of Soros' influence stormed the parliament of Macedonia".

[The Larch]

Hey Tamas, apparently the former PM of Macedonia has ran away from the country to avoid a 2 year prison sentence for corruption and has asked for asylum in Hungary. Any news from Hungarian sources on the topic?

[Tamas]

Hey Tamas, apparently the former PM of Macedonia has ran away from the country to avoid a 2 year prison sentence for corruption and has asked for asylum in Hungary. Any news from Hungarian sources on the topic?

It is semi-confirmed by the government. They are evaluating his asylum request, we are told.

There are juicy details of course that supporters of the government will no doubt ignore: first of all Macedonia has been declared a safe country to make sure colored migrants can be sent back there according to the new laws, so if kept to the law they themselves made, this guy should be shoved back to Macedonia fairly promptly.

Second of all, as per the same laws (designed for dealing with undesirables), any person entering the country without being permitted to do so -like this guy- needs to wait for his asylum request evaluation in the so-called transit zone, the concentration camp on the Serbian border designed to convince people they are better off turning back. It's the kind of place where families waiting for their appeal on their first-round rejected request were denied food and were told to return to Serbia if they are hungry (thereby forfeiting their appeal request).

Needless to say this guy is not there.

This is a further step in unveiling Hungary as the banana republic it has become, but of course nothing will come of it, and the Macedonian guy will probably be quietly shipped to Russia.

[The Larch]

D'oh, just saw that you mentioned it yesterday. 

[Tamas]

According to some Albanian newspaper, judging by border-crossing records it was a car owned by the Hungarian embassy in Tirana that transported the former Macedonian PM from Macedonia to Serbia.

Incidentally, one of the private jets regularly used by Orban to go to football matches and weird short trips to Switzerland and such (oligarch-owned) did land in Belgrade right about the good time to pick this guy up.

[Tamas]

Just so you are aware of what kind of governments get a pass for being EU members:

until about Tuesday, a giant portion of the Hungarian media had been in control of about half a dozen Orbanite oligarchs. ALL the regional newspapers, several magazines, radio stations, 3 major TV stations, assorted webpages.

Start of this week, these have been "donated" to a "Central European Media Foundation" created earlier this summer. This is hundreds of millions of pounds worth of companies, dumped free of charge into a "charity". Which is, needless to say, is run by a very dependable Orban media guy. (he gained the boss' trust in the 90s when illegally transferred ownership of a major newspaper to Fidesz' only oligarch at the time. The deal was revoked by the courts and he lost his job but with his loyalty proven beyon doubt his future was settled).

[Tamas]

The parliamentary opposition has suddenly grown some balls. Upheveal in Parliament right now not seen since, ever, really.

This morning the Parliament was scheduled to vote on a bill making working conditions severly worse for Hungarians, almost doubling the over-hours employers can require from employees. It used to be 250 hours per year with payment for them possibly deffered for a few months. The new bill will have this increased to 400 hours per year with payment for those hours possibly deferred for up to 3 years.

The opposition MPs have blocked the pulpit of the chamber so voting could not be started legally but this didn't slow Fidesz down, they just started proceedings regardless, so the opposition MPs are trying to disturb them with whistles and by blocking their access to their voting buttons at their seats.

What's happening right now, (an MP streaming live), is that the voting-buttons are supposed to work only with the particular MP's ID card inserted to authenticate. They have apparently switched the system though, so anyone can just push the button, as well documented on the live stream. With utter chaos in the chamber and MPs all over the place, this makes it unlawful.