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Started by katmai, March 08, 2011, 11:22:24 AM

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jimmy olsen

Wonder if this counts for the Fulmer cup as well?

http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/news/story?id=6272478

QuoteReport: Four ex-Auburn players got cash


ESPN.com news services

Four former Auburn football players claimed they received thousands of dollars of cash from boosters from a number of schools on an HBO special that airs Wednesday night, according to the website Sports by Brooks.

The players, Chaz Ramsey, Troy Reddick, Stanley McClover and Raven Gray, alleged they received money as part of a pay-for-play scheme during their time at Auburn. None played there more recently than 2007.


"Somebody came to me, I don't even know this person and he was like, 'we would love for you to come to LSU and he gave me a handshake and it had five hundred dollars in there," McClover said in the HBO special, an advance copy of which was obtained by Sports by Brooks. "That's called a money handshake ... I grabbed it and I'm like, 'wow,' hell I thought ten dollars was a lot of money back then."

McClover told "Real Sports" that boosters from Auburn, Michigan State and Ohio State also arranged for him to get money and other inducements such as sexual services when he was being recruited in 2003. He originally committed to Ohio State but switched his commitment to Auburn after receiving cash that he said persuaded him to change his commitment. On that occasion, he said the cash was delivered in a bookbag. The amount was not disclosed.

"I literally passed out I couldn't believe it was true," the HBO transcript quoted McClover as saying. "I felt like I owed them."

"Real Sports with Bryant Gumbel" reports the NCAA declined interview requests and Auburn officials declined to comment, according to Sports by Brooks.

Also in the interview with HBO, Ramsey said Auburn boosters would approach him after games, and that they would give as much as $300 to $400 a game. He said that before he arrived at Auburn, a booster gave him spending money during his junior college career.

The former Auburn offensive guard said he accepted more than $5,000 in cash from boosters, but that he has since taken a stand against the practice. "I'm not out to get anybody, I want high school athletes to know what they're getting into," he told HBO.
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Eddie Teach

Quote from: Valmy on March 14, 2011, 01:25:52 PM
"Nobody loves Ohio State more than me," said Herbstreit, a former Buckeyes quarterback.

For some reason I thought he went to Stanford.  :hmm:
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Berkut

Man, I don't even know what to think about Arizona football next year. Should be interesting in the new Pac-12, I guess. Lord knows our division looks pretty weak.

But I think I've pretty much come to the conclusion that in the long run, you are never really going to be much better than your recruiting. While the rankings can be argued in the particulars, overall the "services" are generally pretty correct in their ranking of recruiting classes.

And that being the case, there is only so much Arizona can ever really hope for, given that Stoops has not managed to recruit at a higher level.
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MadImmortalMan

The NCAA should just scrap all the "don't give anything to players" rules. Get everything on the books and above-board.
"Stability is destabilizing." --Hyman Minsky

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Ed Anger

Quote from: Berkut on March 30, 2011, 09:28:35 AM
Man, I don't even know what to think about Arizona football next year. Should be interesting in the new Pac-12, I guess. Lord knows our division looks pretty weak.

But I think I've pretty much come to the conclusion that in the long run, you are never really going to be much better than your recruiting. While the rankings can be argued in the particulars, overall the "services" are generally pretty correct in their ranking of recruiting classes.

And that being the case, there is only so much Arizona can ever really hope for, given that Stoops has not managed to recruit at a higher level.

Why go to Arizona when there is a better school in Arizona State to go to?

*runs away*
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jimmy olsen

It is far better for the truth to tear my flesh to pieces, then for my soul to wander through darkness in eternal damnation.

Jet: So what kind of woman is she? What's Julia like?
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MadImmortalMan

Future Terrell Owens. Hopefully, he's already hired a PR firm.
"Stability is destabilizing." --Hyman Minsky

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dps

Quote from: jimmy olsen on March 30, 2011, 05:56:20 PM
Cam Newton gets ripped by Draft analyst.

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/blogs/ninerinsider/detail?entry_id=86041&tsp=1
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The Cam camp shot back. "Even the Pope has detractors!"

Yeah, Benedict's arm strength is terrible for an NFL QB, he needs to improve his footwork, and he never finds the secondary reciever.  OTOH, unlike Newton, he can force-choke the defensive backs. 

Ed Anger

The saga of Duron Carter has ended. He is going to 'bama. if he thought Tressel's doghouse was bad, wait until he gets in Saban's.  :lol:
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Ed Anger

Watching the Ohio State Spring game. The upcoming season is going to SUCK. the receivers have dropitis.

Ed Anger Sweater Vest level: Concerned.
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CountDeMoney

Quote from: Ed Anger on March 14, 2011, 03:52:31 PM
Dud, don't lump me in with the mass of Buckeye untermenschen.

Sorry, but Ohio State has some seriously retardo fans, and deserve every possible obnoxious moniker available.  In addition, I blame you. 

Ed Anger

The Columbus Dispatch needs to shut its whore mouth up.
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sbr

http://rivals.yahoo.com/ncaa/football/news;_ylt=AtMoa3Qd0x98N5ozbJWQX6ccvrYF?slug=ap-ohiost-tressel

QuoteNCAA alleges Tressel lied to hide NCAA violations

COLUMBUS, Ohio (AP)—In a sharply worded rebuke of Ohio State's Jim Tressel, the NCAA on Monday accused the 10-year coach of withholding information and lying to keep Buckeyes players on the field who had accepted improper benefits from the owner of a tattoo parlor.

In a "notice of allegations" sent to the school, the NCAA said Monday that the violations relating to the coach are considered "potential major violations."


Ohio State was not cited for the most serious of institutional breaches since Tressel hid information from his superiors for more than nine months. The university has 90 days to respond to the ruling body of college sports' request for information before a scheduled date before the NCAA's committee on infractions on Aug. 12 in Indianapolis.

In a 13-page indictment of Tressel's behavior, the NCAA alleged that Tressel had "permitted football student-athletes to participate in intercollegiate athletics while ineligible." It also said he "failed to deport himself ... (with) honesty and integrity" and said he was lying when he filled out a compliance form in September which said he had no knowledge of any NCAA violations by any of his players.

Tressel appeared at an awards banquet outside Cleveland on Monday night, ducking out of the rain to shake hands with Cleveland Browns president Mike Holmgren before slipping into a side room. Tressel ignored reporters' questions about the NCAA allegations on his way to the hall before accepting a coaching award named for his late father, Lee Tressel.

Athletic director Gene Smith said he would have "no comments until the case is resolved." The university issued a statement that the allegations were consistent with what it had already self-reported to the NCAA on March 8.

Tressel's troubles began with an April 2, 2010, email from Columbus lawyer Christopher Cicero. Cicero, a former Ohio State walk-on player, informed Tressel that a federal agency had raided the house of tattoo-shop owner Eddie Rife and discovered a multitude of autographed Ohio State jerseys, cleats, pants and helmets, Big Ten championship rings and the "gold pants" trinkets given to Buckeyes players for beating archrival Michigan.

Tressel responded, "I will get on it ASAP."

Yet he did not notify Smith or Ohio State President E. Gordon Gee, anyone else in the athletic department, the NCAA compliance department, or anyone in the university's legal department. Instead, he forwarded the email to Jeannette, Pa., businessman Ted Sarniak, a friend and mentor to star quarterback Terrelle Pryor, who was subsequently discovered to be one of the players involved with Rife.

The Columbus Dispatch reported Monday that Tressel went on to exchange at least 12 emails with Cicero, and also had numerous lengthy telephone conversations with Sarniak over the weeks and months ahead. Tressel still did not tell any of his superiors, anyone at the NCAA or his own compliance or legal departments.

In September 2010, Tressel even signed a mandatory and rather routine Ohio State compliance form which clearly and simply asks if he the coach has knowledge of any NCAA violations. By signing and dating it, he said that he did not.

The U.S. Attorney contacted Ohio State in December to notify the university that it had come across the memorabilia. That prompted a cursory investigation— Smith conceded to The Associated Press last week that the effort was rushed— that did not turn up the telltale emails between Cicero and Tressel but did uncover the players' involvement with Rife. After consulting with the NCAA and the Big Ten, Pryor and four other top players were handed five-game suspensions — curiously not including the next game, the Sugar Bowl, but beginning with the first five games of the 2011 season.

Tressel was asked at a news conference if the players knew they were doing something wrong.

"I suppose that would be something rattling around inside the head of each of them individually," he said. "We all have a little sensor within us, 'Well, I'm not sure if I should be doing this."'

At the same time he said that, Tressel later admitted he was covering up his own knowledge of the players' violations.

The NCAA and Ohio State say the case against the players is closed.

It was only when Ohio State began appealing the players' suspensions that it uncovered the emails, leading to Tressel ultimately receiving a five-game suspension and a $250,000 fine. Smith said last week that the fine given to Tressel—who makes around $3.5 million a year—would not cover Ohio State's costs of the investigation.

Tressel has a record of 106-22 at Ohio State and won the 2002 national championship, the Buckeyes' first in 34 years. His team went 12-1 last season, including the 31-26 win over Arkansas in the Sugar Bowl.

The NCAA could accept Ohio State's suggestion of sanctions—the five-game suspension and the fine—or could levy much more severe penalties. Since the NCAA says that Tressel knowingly used ineligible players, it would seem probable that the 2010 regular season would be vacated—ending the Buckeyes' run of Big Ten titles at six in a row. The NCAA could also come down hard on Tressel, compelling Ohio State to add to Tressel's suspension or issue sanctions leading to the school firing him.

AP Sports Writer Tom Withers in Cleveland contributed to this report.

dps

Oh, I so hope the NCAA really nails "The" OSU.

MadImmortalMan

The funny thing is, the "violations" are silly. If he'd just disclosed them, this would be a non-issue. Auburn handing out large suitcases of cash, a little different.
"Stability is destabilizing." --Hyman Minsky

"Complacency can be a self-denying prophecy."
"We have nothing to fear but lack of fear itself." --Larry Summers