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Started by Sheilbh, April 11, 2009, 07:42:39 PM

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Sheilbh

Just watching the first season now (NO SPOILERS!) and I remember lots of people here had issues with it.  So far I'm really enjoying it.  I think they get the fundamental unknowability of Caesar perfectly.  Their portrait of Mark Anthony's also pretty much what I imagined.  I like the young Octavian, hints of the later prig, clearly thinking and ambivalent enough towards violence, as is right.  I also think the depiction of the Roman religion and pleb-life is really interesting and fun.

What did everyone else think, or object to?
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Queequeg

Loved every second of it.  Deadwood without Milch but a more interesting subject. 

The casting was brilliant; Ciarán Hinds and Kevin McKidd were perfect.
Quote from: PDH on April 25, 2009, 05:58:55 PM
"Dysthymia?  Did they get some student from the University of Chicago with a hard-on for ancient Bactrian cities to name this?  I feel cheated."

Legbiter

Loved almost every aspect of it. Kevin McKidd as a hardnosed centurion pulling out the desiccated genitalia of a German Sueboi warrior and placing it on the kitchen table, while casually remarking on their personal bravery was a very nice touch.
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Queequeg

Quote from: Legbiter on April 11, 2009, 08:08:09 PM
Loved almost every aspect of it. Kevin McKidd as a hardnosed centurion pulling out the desiccated genitalia of a German Sueboi warrior and placing it on the kitchen table, while casually remarking on their personal bravery was a very nice touch.
I thought that was some kind of iron German religious phallus? It made a distinct "clank" sound on the wooden table, iirc.
Quote from: PDH on April 25, 2009, 05:58:55 PM
"Dysthymia?  Did they get some student from the University of Chicago with a hard-on for ancient Bactrian cities to name this?  I feel cheated."

Sheilbh

Oh the character I'm least happy with (in terms of how they're being played and the acting) is Brutus <_<
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The Nickname Who Was Thursday

Quote from: Sheilbh on April 11, 2009, 07:42:39 PM
(NO SPOILERS!)

Caesar gets stabbed by Brutus and Cassius.
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Savonarola

Quote from: Sheilbh on April 11, 2009, 08:13:15 PM
Oh the character I'm least happy with (in terms of how they're being played and the acting) is Brutus <_<

He's better in the second season; but you're right, I was never really happy with the character Brutus.
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Queequeg

Quote from: Savonarola on April 11, 2009, 09:04:41 PM
Quote from: Sheilbh on April 11, 2009, 08:13:15 PM
Oh the character I'm least happy with (in terms of how they're being played and the acting) is Brutus <_<

He's better in the second season; but you're right, I was never really happy with the character Brutus.
Actually upon repeated viewing Brutus' character arc is the most interesting in Season 2. 
Quote from: PDH on April 25, 2009, 05:58:55 PM
"Dysthymia?  Did they get some student from the University of Chicago with a hard-on for ancient Bactrian cities to name this?  I feel cheated."

Phillip V

Brutus was well-played and written. You guys are just uncomfortable because you see yourselves in Brutus. :D

PRC

Season 1 is better than season 2 but overall it's fun to watch.  Brutus does improve in season 2. 

Love the gladiator episode / scene with Pullo, Vorenus, and the Jew.

Syt

Quote from: Sheilbh on April 11, 2009, 07:42:39 PM
I also think the depiction of the Roman religion and pleb-life is really interesting and fun.

Wiki has a pretty good episode guide going, which also explains the historical/social background of each episode and what they got right or wrong:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Stolen_Eagle

There's also a chronology:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chronology_of_Rome_(TV_series)
(Not sure if those are the "old" Roman dates or "modern" ones, though; their calendar at the time was several months out of wack with the seasons already, I think)

I stopped watching after a couple episodes, not because I didn't like it, but because I borrowed the box to a colleague for copying. <_<
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The Nickname Who Was Thursday

Quote from: Syt on April 12, 2009, 12:41:29 AM
I stopped watching after a couple episodes, not because I didn't like it, but because I borrowed the box to a colleague for copying. <_<

You mean you loaned it?
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Syt

Quote from: The Nickname Who Was Thursday on April 12, 2009, 12:54:16 AM
Quote from: Syt on April 12, 2009, 12:41:29 AM
I stopped watching after a couple episodes, not because I didn't like it, but because I borrowed the box to a colleague for copying. <_<

You mean you loaned it?

Yes, whatever.

I've received it back since then, but have yet to be back in an Ancient Rome mood.
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grumbler

I enjoyed it as well, understanding it to be a drama based on history, but historical per se.
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