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Started by Eddie Teach, March 06, 2011, 09:29:27 AM

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Malthus

TV batman beats them all. None of the modern so-called superheros can dance the Batusi.  :P
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celedhring

Quote from: Tyr on April 07, 2014, 10:36:54 AM
Thor top? :blink:
That's one of the poorer efforts for me.

All their movies are very uneven so don't take it as a claim that Thor is a great film. I just find it the most enjoyable, the comedy works superbly well although it's true that Loki is a shit villain (which then goes on to ruin Avengers).

Admiral Yi

Thor definitely has the prettiest protagonist.

Sheilbh

Of the ones I've seen and can remember:
Thor
Avengers
Iron Man

Oh :blush:
Let's bomb Russia!

celedhring

It seems to me that Marvel are pretty good at creating engaging protagonists (Cap, Thor, Tony Stark) but for some reason fail at creating compelling villains to oppose them, which makes the films work only in parts. Can anybody recall a good Marvel villain? The only memorable one I remember was The Mandarin [spoiler]and that's because he ends up not being the villain at all[/spoiler]. Compare it to Magneto in the X-Men films, Doc Oc in Spiderman 2, The Joker...

Admiral Yi

X-Men are from the Marvelverse.

celedhring

Quote from: Admiral Yi on April 07, 2014, 11:11:04 AM
X-Men are from the Marvelverse.

Was talking about Marvel the company, not Marvel the universe. The X-Men films are made by Fox.

Eddie Teach

Spider-man is too. Considering these characters were all made several decades ago, the difference is coincidental rather than meaningful.
To sleep, perchance to dream. But in that sleep of death, what dreams may come?

Admiral Yi

But surely the villains are all drawn from the comics.

celedhring

Quote from: Admiral Yi on April 07, 2014, 11:13:46 AM
But surely the villains are all drawn from the comics.

Doesn't matter, pretty sure a bad writer could write an awful Joker.

Sheilbh

Quote from: Admiral Yi on April 07, 2014, 11:13:46 AM
But surely the villains are all drawn from the comics.
Yeah. But all the Marvel villains could be compelling in the comics - but wouldn't necessarily work in the films.

I wonder if it's in part because outside comic-geekery a lot of the Avengers characters really aren't that well known, so they did a lot of work on them. They needed to make those characters known and good enough to sustain this whole universe of sequels and spin-offs. X-Men, Batman, Spiderman were already really famous.
Let's bomb Russia!

Eddie Teach

The Incredible Hulk was really famous as well, due to the tv show.
To sleep, perchance to dream. But in that sleep of death, what dreams may come?

Sheilbh

Yeah, totally forgot about him. But of the Avengers series he's the only one who was well known.
Let's bomb Russia!

celedhring

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Quote from: Sheilbh on April 07, 2014, 11:17:31 AM
Quote from: Admiral Yi on April 07, 2014, 11:13:46 AM
But surely the villains are all drawn from the comics.
Yeah. But all the Marvel villains could be compelling in the comics - but wouldn't necessarily work in the films.

I wonder if it's in part because outside comic-geekery a lot of the Avengers characters really aren't that well known, so they did a lot of work on them. They needed to make those characters known and good enough to sustain this whole universe of sequels and spin-offs. X-Men, Batman, Spiderman were already really famous.

Yeah, the work they have made on those characters is commendable. Marvel pawned off their most famous characters in the 90s (Spiderman, the X-Men universe, the Fantastic 4, the Hulk*) yet they have managed to make multimillion dollar franchises out of the scraps they retained.

Now, they have to put the same work in their villains. Loki's been in 3 movies already and he's still a charisma black hole.


*Got this one back when the first film didn't work.

Syt

Of the ones I've seen:

Avengers
Iron Man
Iron Man 3
Thor
Cap
Iron Man 2
Hulk
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