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Started by Eddie Teach, March 06, 2011, 09:29:27 AM

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Savonarola

Quote from: mongers on September 08, 2025, 06:40:20 PM
Quote from: Josephus on September 08, 2025, 03:58:18 PM
Quote from: mongers on September 07, 2025, 07:34:46 AM'Caligula: The Ultimate Cut' - Not the best of films, but it has a few interesting points.

I'm glad I never saw the original release with the hardcore porn.



The Ultimate Cut doesn't have the porn?? :huh:

Well no actual real hardcore sex, but obviously still lots of sexual imagery in this edit.

I've seen the original Caligula with the hardcore sex.  It isn't good.  The hardcore scenes are all shot completely differently than the rest of the film so it just looks wrong.  I had heard that this version was going to be done completely with the Tinto Brass film (rather than the additions by Penthouse).  Being familiar with some of Brass's other work I wasn't expecting a masterpiece, but I was hoping that it was going to be an enjoyable, campy Italian film.  Based on your description it doesn't sound like it is.
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Sheilbh

Didn't they basically film Caligula in its entirety then show it to Bob Guccione who was paying for it and was disappointed at the lack of sex - so he then went and filmed a load of hardcore scenes and edit them in but it was entirely separate?
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Savonarola

Quote from: Sheilbh on September 09, 2025, 03:56:42 PMDidn't they basically film Caligula in its entirety then show it to Bob Guccione who was paying for it and was disappointed at the lack of sex - so he then went and filmed a load of hardcore scenes and edit them in but it was entirely separate?

I think that's right.  The hardcore sex scenes weren't filmed by Tinto Brass and were edited in later.

My understanding is that The Ultimate Cut is even longer than the original release; so there may have been other edits as well.
In Italy, for thirty years under the Borgias, they had warfare, terror, murder and bloodshed, but they produced Michelangelo, Leonardo da Vinci and the Renaissance. In Switzerland, they had brotherly love, they had five hundred years of democracy and peace—and what did that produce? The cuckoo clock

mongers

Quote from: Savonarola on September 09, 2025, 04:01:43 PM
Quote from: Sheilbh on September 09, 2025, 03:56:42 PMDidn't they basically film Caligula in its entirety then show it to Bob Guccione who was paying for it and was disappointed at the lack of sex - so he then went and filmed a load of hardcore scenes and edit them in but it was entirely separate?

I think that's right.  The hardcore sex scenes weren't filmed by Tinto Brass and were edited in later.

My understanding is that The Ultimate Cut is even longer than the original release; so there may have been other edits as well.

Yes something like 2 hours 50 mins.

And just to clarify, I thought it was worth a viewing, certainly wouldn't describe it as a bad movie.

The sets are excellent, up there with Cleopatra and some of the acting is scenery-chopping worthy.

So give it a spin, I think I saw it on prime, perhaps encouraged to watch it as it's going to be remove? 
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Syt

Quote from: Sheilbh on September 09, 2025, 03:56:42 PMDidn't they basically film Caligula in its entirety then show it to Bob Guccione who was paying for it and was disappointed at the lack of sex - so he then went and filmed a load of hardcore scenes and edit them in but it was entirely separate?

I believe so. I have that cut of the film, and the sex scenes don't really add much and feel a bit like intermissions.
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celedhring

One of the traumatic moments of my childhood is when I stumbled upon the VHS where my parents had taped Caligula.

Haven't watched it ever since!

crazy canuck

Quote from: Admiral Yi on September 08, 2025, 10:49:28 PMI watched Caligula in a theater some time after it came out and i honestly don't remember any genitals at all.  Lots of boobs.

You were too young to see it in the theatre.
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mongers

'The Phoenician Scheme ' - Good whimsical entertainment.
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Josephus

Quote from: Admiral Yi on September 08, 2025, 10:49:28 PMI watched Caligula in a theater some time after it came out and i honestly don't remember any genitals at all.  Lots of boobs.

There is, I have heard, an edit with hardcore sex scenes, directed, I've read, by Bob Guccione of, I heard, Penthouse. someone told me such scenes can be found on various free (though malware prone) websites. But, of course, I can't confirm.
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Admiral Yi

The strange part is I saw it in a theater that did show real porn from time to time, so it's odd they would opt for the R+ version.

viper37

Quote from: Admiral Yi on September 10, 2025, 03:42:03 PMThe strange part is I saw it in a theater that did show real porn from time to time, so it's odd they would opt for the R+ version.
Such cuts for movies usually are released a little while after it had its initial run in theater.
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I get his point. That recent one with Matt Smith, watching it today... Its just dumb. Very dated.
Not that it was good when it was new or course.
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Admiral Yi

They made it to Terminator 6? :o