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Started by Eddie Teach, March 06, 2011, 09:29:27 AM

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HVC

They could have picked a better picture of Levar.
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Quote from: HVC on October 10, 2021, 04:31:29 PM
They could have picked a better picture of Levar.

Why do you think they made Laforge blind with a visor on at all times??
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Quote from: celedhring on October 10, 2021, 12:49:14 PM
So, the last big hit of the Catalan TV is the Turkish adaptation of "This is us". I watched an episode, and it's truly weird.

Can't be as good as Turkish Star Wars or Turkish Spider-Man. Those were classics!
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Josephus

Should be trekkers not trekkies :(
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Eddie Teach

Only Trekkers know the difference.
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Sheilbh

The Green Knight.

I loved it. Weird, beautiful, wonderful score/soundtrack. It also felt convincingly "medieval" to me which is rare.

Dev Patel in particular is terrific (just after his turn in David Copperfield too).
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Admiral Yi

I think the reason Zodiac failed to impress the first time around is it's so inconclusive.  Sort of like Usual Suspects.


celedhring

What is so unconclusive about Usual Suspects?

Sheilbh

Quote from: Admiral Yi on October 11, 2021, 03:40:57 PM
I think the reason Zodiac failed to impress the first time around is it's so inconclusive.  Sort of like Usual Suspects.
It's understandable, though. I think at the time it was made Ted Cruz was just a local politician with no profile.
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Admiral Yi

Quote from: celedhring on October 11, 2021, 03:53:04 PM
What is so unconclusive about Usual Suspects?

Because there's no way to know what really happened.

Admiral Yi

Quote from: Sheilbh on October 11, 2021, 03:53:23 PM
It's understandable, though. I think at the time it was made Ted Cruz was just a local politician with no profile.

?? What does Ted Cruz have to do with it?  :unsure:

The point I'm tryiing to make is a police procedural about an eventually unsolved case with conflictiing evidence doesn't make for a great movie story.

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Quote from: Admiral Yi on October 11, 2021, 03:57:29 PM
Quote from: Sheilbh on October 11, 2021, 03:53:23 PM
It's understandable, though. I think at the time it was made Ted Cruz was just a local politician with no profile.

?? What does Ted Cruz have to do with it?  :unsure:

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celedhring

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Quote from: Admiral Yi on October 11, 2021, 03:55:03 PM
Quote from: celedhring on October 11, 2021, 03:53:04 PM
What is so unconclusive about Usual Suspects?

Because there's no way to know what really happened.

I think you know the basic outline of it. Soze manipulates the protagonists to get rid of the dude that can recognize him (and then sloppily allows himself to be identified by a survivor, but whatever).

Admiral Yi

Quote from: celedhring on October 11, 2021, 04:01:02 PM
I think you know the basic outline of it. Soze manipulates the protagonists to get rid of the dude that can recognize him (and then sloppily allows himself to be identified by a survivor, but whatever).

But how do you know that actually happened?  It seems to me the whole movie is basically told in flashback by Soze to the detective.  How can you tell which parts are true and which are false?

celedhring

Quote from: Admiral Yi on October 11, 2021, 04:14:29 PM
Quote from: celedhring on October 11, 2021, 04:01:02 PM
I think you know the basic outline of it. Soze manipulates the protagonists to get rid of the dude that can recognize him (and then sloppily allows himself to be identified by a survivor, but whatever).

But how do you know that actually happened?  It seems to me the whole movie is basically told in flashback by Soze to the detective.  How can you tell which parts are true and which are false?

We know that the key events in the film are real, since we see them outside Kint's narration:

- That the protagonists were arrested and put in a lineup, where they all met.
- That the raid on the boat happened.

How we go from one to another is what Kint's story is. There's lots of lies in it (but we also know that Postlewaithe's character is real, since we see him in the ending), but I suspect the essence of it is meant to be true. Kint lies to protect his own identity and his associates'. All the stuff in the bulletin board are just names (Redfoot and Kobayashi) or super ancillary stuff to his story.

We could also debate whether a bunch of flashbacks that occur outside of Kint's PoV are meant to be real (since those can't be things that Kint is telling Detective Kujan), which would also cement a bunch of stuff.

Also Kint's plea deal story has to check out at the most basic level, so I presume he didn't lie in the stuff that's going to be on the record, or easy to corroborate. I.e. the hit on the taxi service probably happened.