Libyan Civil War Megathread

[Ed Anger]

But at the minute is it really that much more intense for Western powers than, say, the Iraqi no-fly zone?

Quite a bit more intense for the US and Britain.  Infinitely more intense for the other guys.

Is it more intense than the first phase in 92?  Yep it's more for the French and the rest but I get the impression it's more popular there.  The people who seem to be wobbling are the Americans.

Stop listening to Dennis Kuncinich.

[Ed Anger]

Also, I've given up on this war. Total suckfest after the first 2 days of assrape by the US.

Bush blowed up shit better.

[jamesww]

Rape as a weapon of war and the disappeared in Ajdabiya, Al-Jazeera report: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ISLz8Fv0eik

[Neil]

How quick does Japan go down if we ignore Germany and throw everything into the Pacific instead? 

I'm not sure that it goes all that much faster, but I guarantee you that the war would have been a lot less pleasant in the Pacific.  Speedrushing the Pacific means invading Japan without the atom bomb.

[CountDeMoney]

How quick does Japan go down if we ignore Germany and throw everything into the Pacific instead? 

I'm not sure that it goes all that much faster, but I guarantee you that the war would have been a lot less pleasant in the Pacific.  Speedrushing the Pacific means invading Japan without the atom bomb.

Yup.
But I don't know how much faster it would've gone.  You can only fit X number of troops on so many islands at once.

[Berkut]

Yeah, if the Japs don't get their War In Europe cards played, it can be pretty rough.

[garbon]

And it's been going on for about a fortnight and people are stressing out.

What people?

[Neil]

How quick does Japan go down if we ignore Germany and throw everything into the Pacific instead? 

I'm not sure that it goes all that much faster, but I guarantee you that the war would have been a lot less pleasant in the Pacific.  Speedrushing the Pacific means invading Japan without the atom bomb.

Yup.
But I don't know how much faster it would've gone.  You can only fit X number of troops on so many islands at once.

Not to mention running supplies through those little islands.  And you can't get the bombing campaign on Japan going until the Superfortress enters service in 1944, because the Flying Fortress and the Liberator don't have the kind of range that you'd want.

Of course, the unintended consequence of that would be a Communist Europe.

[Caliga]

Gahdafi seems: unlikely to accept!

Libyan opposition leader: rebels will accept cease-fire if Gadhafi pulls forces from cities
By Associated Press, Friday, April 1, 7:32 AM

BENGHAZI, Libya — A Libyan opposition leader says the rebels will accept a U.N.-demanded cease-fire if Moammar Gadhafi pulls his forces from all cities and allows peaceful protests.

Mustafa Abdul-Jalil spoke Friday during a joint press conference with U.N. envoy Abdelilah Al-Khatib. Al-Khatib is visiting the rebels' de-facto stronghold of Benghazi in hopes of reaching a cease-fire and political solution to the crisis embroiling the North African nation.

Abdul-Jalil says the rebels' condition for a cease fire is "that the Gadhafi brigades and forces withdraw from inside and outside Libyan cities to give freedom to the Libyan people to choose and the world will see that they will choose freedom."

Copyright 2011 The Associated Press. All rights reserved. This material may not be published, broadcast, rewritten or redistributed.

[derspiess]

And it's been going on for about a fortnight and people are stressing out.

What people?

The administration-- at least I would hope they are.

[grumbler]

How quick does Japan go down if we ignore Germany and throw everything into the Pacific instead? 

Can't build the ships necessary significantly faster, so "not much more quickly."

[garbon]

And it's been going on for about a fortnight and people are stressing out.

What people?

The administration-- at least I would hope they are.

Really? Just seems like something to do to kill time in 2011.

[Valmy]

Really? Just seems like something to do to kill time in 2011.

Gotta blow federal money we don't have someplace.

[garbon]

Really? Just seems like something to do to kill time in 2011.

Gotta blow federal money we don't have someplace.

Exactly.

[derspiess]

Really? Just seems like something to do to kill time in 2011.

Gotta blow federal money we don't have someplace.

Michael Moore says we have the money-- more than enough to cover all state & federal budget deficits.  We just need to go steal it from rich people is all.