Libyan Civil War Megathread

[Admiral Yi]

I actually don't think the Arab League statement is that goofy.  They said they would support a no-fly zone only, and this is clearly more than a no-fly zone.

Well, except the part about civilians, which is kind of goofy.

[Gambrinus]

Those dastardly , they're playing Libya and USA out against each other to gain World Supremacy!
Thankfully the rebels have exposed the Truth 

[Warspite]

I actually don't think the Arab League statement is that goofy.  They said they would support a no-fly zone only, and this is clearly more than a no-fly zone.

Well, except the part about civilians, which is kind of goofy.

Of course, the moment the resolution text was floated, it was clear that this was not a 'no fly zone', rather a 'close air support for a rebel movement'.

[Admiral Yi]

Of course, the moment the resolution text was floated, it was clear that this was not a 'no fly zone', rather a 'close air support for a rebel movement'.

I think the original Towelhead Alliance statement predates the draft resolution, no?

[derspiess]

I actually don't think the Arab League statement is that goofy.  They said they would support a no-fly zone only, and this is clearly more than a no-fly zone.

Well, except the part about civilians, which is kind of goofy.

It's goofy because they're a bunch of fucking ingrates.  If they had taken action themselves rather than impotently asking someone else to do it, they'd have been able to use the precise amount of force they find palatable.

[Warspite]

I actually don't think the Arab League statement is that goofy.  They said they would support a no-fly zone only, and this is clearly more than a no-fly zone.

Well, except the part about civilians, which is kind of goofy.

It's goofy because they're a bunch of fucking ingrates.  If they had taken action themselves rather than impotently asking someone else to do it, they'd have been able to use the precise amount of force they find palatable.

THe laughable thing about the advocates of this intervention pointing to the Arab League's position as granting legitimacy is that the Arab league is made up of precisely the same kind of unelected autocrat as Gadaffi. Their position is just score-settling; he's not a popular man in the region. They'd love to seem him go, and are happy for Western blood and treasure to be expended doing it. I suspect they're now back-tracking publicly to save a bit of face now that the inevitable Crusader rhetoric is coming out.

[Admiral Yi]

THe laughable thing about the advocates of this intervention pointing to the Arab League's position as granting legitimacy is that the Arab league is made up of precisely the same kind of unelected autocrat as Gadaffi. Their position is just score-settling; he's not a popular man in the region. They'd love to seem him go, and are happy for Western blood and treasure to be expended doing it. I suspect they're now back-tracking publicly to save a bit of face now that the inevitable Crusader rhetoric is coming out.

All true, but irrelevant.  The logic of multilateralism is built on having everybody on board, not on consistency.

[Josephus]

I actually don't think the Arab League statement is that goofy.  They said they would support a no-fly zone only, and this is clearly more than a no-fly zone.

Well, except the part about civilians, which is kind of goofy.

That's what I'm confused about. What did the UN sanction? Cause bombing tanks is not a no-fly zone enforcement. This is taking sides in an internal conflict.

[Ed Anger]

You people take the fun out of wars.

[Admiral Yi]

What did the UN sanction?

All measures necessary to protect the civilian population.

[dps]

This is taking sides in an internal conflict.

Well boo-fucking-hoo.

[citizen k]

This is taking sides in an internal conflict.

All conflicts are local.

[Razgovory]

I actually don't think the Arab League statement is that goofy.  They said they would support a no-fly zone only, and this is clearly more than a no-fly zone.

Well, except the part about civilians, which is kind of goofy.

That's what I'm confused about. What did the UN sanction? Cause bombing tanks is not a no-fly zone enforcement. This is taking sides in an internal conflict.

Not if they bomb tanks on both sides.  It just so happens Government forces have all the tanks.  If Gaddafi gives the rebels some tanks I'm sure we would be willing to bomb those as well.

[garbon]

This is taking sides in an internal conflict.

Well boo-fucking-hoo.

It's one thing to denounce a man for attacking his own citizens, but doing something about it...despicable!

[Grey Fox]

I actually don't think the Arab League statement is that goofy.  They said they would support a no-fly zone only, and this is clearly more than a no-fly zone.

Well, except the part about civilians, which is kind of goofy.

That's what I'm confused about. What did the UN sanction? Cause bombing tanks is not a no-fly zone enforcement. This is taking sides in an internal conflict.

Are you really surprised? The french are this close to escalate Opération Épervier.