Detroit thread. Post Kwame, Monica, and $1 houses here.

Started by MadImmortalMan, March 17, 2009, 12:39:21 PM

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Savonarola

Quote from: Duque de Bragança on April 02, 2023, 01:41:35 PMGentrification must be really bad in Detroit for Savonarola I guess.  :P

Guilty.  (I think I wrote about it here that) the first time I returned to mid-town after the bankruptcy and saw that it's now filled with Whole Foods, yoga parlors and all the other banal excesses of bourgeois America my first thought was "My God, we need to bring back Kwame."

 ;)

Seriously Detroit is much better off post-bankruptcy and with the current mayor; but I'll always miss the old Detroit.
In Italy, for thirty years under the Borgias, they had warfare, terror, murder and bloodshed, but they produced Michelangelo, Leonardo da Vinci and the Renaissance. In Switzerland, they had brotherly love, they had five hundred years of democracy and peace—and what did that produce? The cuckoo clock

Josquius

Quote from: Savonarola on April 02, 2023, 02:05:55 PM
Quote from: Duque de Bragança on April 02, 2023, 01:41:35 PMGentrification must be really bad in Detroit for Savonarola I guess.  :P

Guilty.  (I think I wrote about it here that) the first time I returned to mid-town after the bankruptcy and saw that it's now filled with Whole Foods, yoga parlors and all the other banal excesses of bourgeois America my first thought was "My God, we need to bring back Kwame."

 ;)

Seriously Detroit is much better off post-bankruptcy and with the current mayor; but I'll always miss the old Detroit.
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Isn't that just called Gary?
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Duque de Bragança

Quote from: Savonarola on April 02, 2023, 02:05:55 PM
Quote from: Duque de Bragança on April 02, 2023, 01:41:35 PMGentrification must be really bad in Detroit for Savonarola I guess.  :P

Guilty.  (I think I wrote about it here that) the first time I returned to mid-town after the bankruptcy and saw that it's now filled with Whole Foods, yoga parlors and all the other banal excesses of bourgeois America my first thought was "My God, we need to bring back Kwame."

 ;)

Seriously Detroit is much better off post-bankruptcy and with the current mayor; but I'll always miss the old Detroit.

Yes, that's one of your posts I remember something along the line of "one can never go back".

When I hear or see Old Detroit, I think of the Old Man in Robocop.  :P

Savonarola

Quote from: Duque de Bragança on April 03, 2023, 08:02:57 AMYes, that's one of your posts I remember something along the line of "one can never go back".

When I hear or see Old Detroit, I think of the Old Man in Robocop.  :P

"You can't go back home again" (I may have left out the "Again").  It's a title of a novel by Thomas Wolfe about a successful novelist who returns to his home town and discovers both it and he have changed too much that he could ever really go home.  (That's really only the beginning, it expands on the idea of "Home" even further to mean the United States and the protagonist's relationship to it.)  The (very Gertrude Steinian) Gertrude Stein quote "There is no there, there" is meant to express a similar sentiment.
In Italy, for thirty years under the Borgias, they had warfare, terror, murder and bloodshed, but they produced Michelangelo, Leonardo da Vinci and the Renaissance. In Switzerland, they had brotherly love, they had five hundred years of democracy and peace—and what did that produce? The cuckoo clock

Savonarola

In any event, The Detroit News has a bunch of archival material online.  Check out this driver taking a test drive at the Ford Proving Grounds in 1928:  Newsreel

I'm not sure which proving grounds these are.  1928 was the year the Rouge Factory (Dearborn) opened; but the main production facility was still in Highland Park.
In Italy, for thirty years under the Borgias, they had warfare, terror, murder and bloodshed, but they produced Michelangelo, Leonardo da Vinci and the Renaissance. In Switzerland, they had brotherly love, they had five hundred years of democracy and peace—and what did that produce? The cuckoo clock

Savonarola

A bit north of the exurbs, (Holly is where the Renaissance Festival (Huzzah!) is held), but still close to Detroit:

Real-life cowboy wrangles stray cow on Michigan interstate

:alberta:
In Italy, for thirty years under the Borgias, they had warfare, terror, murder and bloodshed, but they produced Michelangelo, Leonardo da Vinci and the Renaissance. In Switzerland, they had brotherly love, they had five hundred years of democracy and peace—and what did that produce? The cuckoo clock

MadImmortalMan

 I wish there was a way for Sav's gigantic pile of stories...

Some kind of publishing mechanism...
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Savonarola

Quote from: MadImmortalMan on June 02, 2023, 05:20:02 AMI wish there was a way for Sav's gigantic pile of stories...

Some kind of publishing mechanism...

Thank you, that was kind.   :)

I wish I still had the inclination to write; but after having set up a home office during Covid I haven't wanted to spend any more time at the computer.

(I guess I could go back to writing longhand; or pull a CDM and get a typewriter.)
In Italy, for thirty years under the Borgias, they had warfare, terror, murder and bloodshed, but they produced Michelangelo, Leonardo da Vinci and the Renaissance. In Switzerland, they had brotherly love, they had five hundred years of democracy and peace—and what did that produce? The cuckoo clock

Savonarola

Strange that we were just discussing Hamtramck, Michigan (which has a large number of immigrants from Yemen, Bangladesh) andI saw today this panic piece on Fox News today:

QuoteDearborn Heights Police Department trots out 'optional patch' featuring Arabic and English text
'Pray for Michigan,' Rep Randy Fine declared in a post on X

The Dearborn Heights Police Department in Michigan has announced an "optional patch" that includes text in both Arabic and English.

The patch includes the words "DEARBORN HEIGHTS" and "POLICE" written in both English and Arabic.

"The Dearborn Heights Police Department is proud to share a new optional patch that our officers may wear as part of their uniform," the department noted in a Facebook post.


"This patch was created by Officer Emily Murdoch, who designed it to reflect and honor the diversity of our community - especially the many residents of Arabic descent who call Dearborn Heights home. By incorporating Arabic script alongside English, this patch represents unity, respect, and our shared commitment to service. We are proud of Officer Murdoch's creativity and dedication in helping our department better represent the people we serve," the post noted.

"Our officers proudly serve all members of our community, and this new design is another way we continue to celebrate the rich cultures that make our city unique," it added.


Republican Rep. Randy Fine of Florida responded to a post on X about the patch, though the post he was reacting to did not explain that the new patch is optional for officers.

"They said their goal was to bring sharia law to America. You should've believed them. Pray for Michigan," Fine declared.


Fine won a special election and began serving in the U.S. House of Representatives earlier this year.
The badge in question:



Now I'm no Islamic Scholar, but I'm pretty sure putting Arabic writing on police patches is not actually part of the Sharia.

Dearborn Heights is a majority Arab-American city (mostly with people of either Iraqi or Lebanese descent), home to the largest mosque in the United States and home of the Arab American National Museum (funded in part by Saddam Hussein, but long before the First Gulf War.)  For a long time conservative commentators have said that the Sharia was enforced either in Dearborn (home of Ford Motor Company) or Dearborn Heights; but, of course, it's not and their evidence is usually things like this.

Fines represents the district north of mine, Daytona/Daytona Beach would be the largest city.

(Check out the comments if you truly want to see xenophobia.) 
In Italy, for thirty years under the Borgias, they had warfare, terror, murder and bloodshed, but they produced Michelangelo, Leonardo da Vinci and the Renaissance. In Switzerland, they had brotherly love, they had five hundred years of democracy and peace—and what did that produce? The cuckoo clock

Josquius

Someone aught to troll them by writing pro trump slogans in Arabic
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Crazy_Ivan80

Quote from: Josquius on September 05, 2025, 01:06:31 PMSomeone aught to troll them by writing pro trump slogans in Arabic

That's actually funny.
Maybe add a glowing ball too