Donner Party ate family dog, not people

[jimmy olsen]

Syt will be crushed.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/36574673/ns/technology_and_science-science/

Donner Party ate family dog, maybe not people
Analysis of bones found at campsite shows no evidence of cannibalism

By Jennifer Viegas
updated 6:01 p.m. ET April 15, 2010

The Donner Party, a group of 19th century American pioneers who became snowbound in the Sierra Nevada and supposedly resorted to cannibalism, may not have eaten each other after all, suggests a new study on bones found at the group's Alder Creek campsite hearth in California.

Detailed analysis of the bones instead found that the 84 Donner Party members consumed a family dog, "Uno," along with cattle, deer and horses. Cattle, likely eaten after the animals themselves died of starvation, appear to have been their mainstay.

The study is the first to show that the Donner members successfully hunted deer, despite the approximately 30 feet of snow on the ground during the winter of 1846-1847. The horses are thought to have come from relief parties that arrived in February and could have left a few of their animals behind.
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The paper, which will be published in the July issue of the journal American Antiquity, is also the first to prove the theory that the stranded individuals ate their pet dog.

"They were boiling hides, chewing on leather and trying desperately to survive," project leader Gwen Robbins told Discovery News. "We can see that the bones were processed so heavily — boiled and crushed down in order to extract any kind of nutrients from them."

Robbins, an assistant professor of biological anthropology at Appalachian State University, and her team produced thin sections from the hearth bones and examined them under high magnification in order to measure each basic structural unit and link the bones to particular animals.

No human bones were identified.

  "What we have demonstrated is that there is no evidence for cannibalism," said Robbins. "If the Donner Party did resort to cannibalism, the bones were treated in a different way (such as buried), or they were placed on the hearth last and could have since eroded."

Victorian Era journalists, who embellished the accounts provided by the 47 survivors, largely fueled the legend of the Donner Party cannibalism. The survivors, 11 men and 36 women and children, fiercely denied the allegations. Although one man, Lewis Keseberg, filed and won a defamation suit, he was still forever known as Keseberg the Cannibal.

"Racism might have played a part," Robbins said. "Keseberg was from Poland, and negative sentiment toward Polish immigrants existed then."

The trash and debris left around the Donner Party hearth in the spring of 1847 show that, in spite of their very difficult circumstances, the members tried to maintain a sense of decorum and normalcy.

"Slates suggest they had the children sitting and doing their lessons, while shards of china indicate they were eating off of plates, retaining some dignity and hoping for the future," Robbins explained.

University of Montana anthropologist Kelly Dixon worked on the initial study that first documented the hearth and bones.

"The tale of the Donner Party has focused on the tragedy of survival cannibalism," said Dixon, "yet the archaeological remains inspire us to consider more significant implications, such as what it was like to be human, doing whatever possible to survive in one of the snowbound camps."

Robbins and her colleagues are currently writing a book about the Donner Party for the University of Oklahoma Press. It is scheduled for release next year.
© 2010 Discovery Channel

[Jaron]

They probably ate the bones.

[Syt]

Doesn't take away from Alferd Packer, though.

[garbon]

Actually what is crushing is the irreparable damage done to millions of school children who had to learn about them eating one another.

[jimmy olsen]

Actually what is crushing is the irreparable damage done to millions of school children who had to learn about them eating one another.

Irreparable damage? Really?

[Zanza]

"Racism might have played a part," Robbins said. "Keseberg was from Poland, and negative sentiment toward Polish immigrants existed then."

He was born in Westphalia and has a German lastname.
http://www.utahcrossroads.org/DonnerParty/Keseberg.htm

[garbon]

Irreparable damage? Really?

Sure. It was one of the first despicable things I learned about humanity.

[citizen k]

Irreparable damage? Really?

Sure. It was one of the first despicable things I learned about humanity.

My take away from that episode was stay out of the High Sierras during winter unless you're prepared to make some difficult decisions.

[citizen k]

"Racism might have played a part," Robbins said. "Keseberg was from Poland, and negative sentiment toward Polish immigrants existed then."

He was born in Westphalia and has a German lastname.
http://www.utahcrossroads.org/DonnerParty/Keseberg.htm

And when was Polish a race? 

... and negative sentiment toward Polish immigrants existed then.

And when did this stop? 

[jimmy olsen]

Irreparable damage? Really?

Sure. It was one of the first despicable things I learned about humanity.

Was the story that they killed people and ate them or just that they ate people who died?

[The Brain]

I was gonna throw a Donner party next week. Seems pointless now.

[garbon]

You can eat dog.

[Syt]

All is well:

http://www.nypost.com/p/news/national/cannibal_doc_eats_her_words_fMVybDtpUqhD8U8ZRKHdiJ

'Cannibal' doc eats her words

Researchers have a bone to pick with reports claiming the ill-fated Donner Party -- a group of pioneers who resorted to cannibalism when they got stranded in California mountains -- didn't eat each other.

A professor at Appalachian State University yesterday reaffirmed long-held beliefs that settlers, trapped in the Sierra Nevada mountains during the brutal winter of 1846-47, resorted to eating each other's flesh to survive.

Biological anthropologist Gwen Robbins wanted to set the record straight after her findings, made public last week, were interpreted as proof there was no cannibalism.

[Slargos]

On the trail, little is heard of Keseberg. He may have         taken a buffalo          robe from a Sioux burial scaffold,

In 1851 Keseberg bought the Lady Adams Hotel (giving rise to the          story  that he          ran a restaurant) but it was destroyed by fire the          following year. Between 1853 and 1861 he operated the Phoenix  Brewery          near Sutter's Fort, but once again disaster struck and his  business was destroyed, this time by flood. Keseberg worked in San  Francisco for a          few years in the 1860s, moving about 1866 to Calistoga, where he           was a partner in Sam Brannan's distillery. He returned to  Sacramento          about 1872 and lived out his unhappy life in the area, dying as          a charity case in a local hospital in 1895. His grave is unknown  and          unmarked.

I guess he shouldn't go about desecrating graves.