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Obama Limits When U.S. Would Use Nuclear Arms

Started by jimmy olsen, April 05, 2010, 07:49:05 PM

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jimmy olsen

 :rolleyes:
The only thing that will make nuclear weapons obsolete are orbital kinetic weapon platforms.

http://www.nytimes.com/2010/04/06/world/06arms.html
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Obama Limits When U.S. Would Use Nuclear Arms
By DAVID E. SANGER and PETER BAKER
Published: April 5, 2010


WASHINGTON — President Obama said Monday that he was revamping American nuclear strategy to substantially narrow the conditions under which the United States would use nuclear weapons, even in self defense.

But the president said in an interview that he was carving out an exception for "outliers like Iran and North Korea" that have violated or renounced the main treaty to halt nuclear proliferation.

Discussing his approach to nuclear security the day before formally releasing his new strategy, Mr. Obama described his policy as part of a broader effort to edge the world toward making nuclear weapons obsolete, and to create incentives for countries to give up any nuclear ambitions. To set an example, the new strategy renounces the development of any new nuclear weapons, overruling the initial position of his own defense secretary.

Mr. Obama's strategy is a sharp shift from those adopted by his predecessors and seeks to revamp the nation's nuclear posture for a new age in which rogue states and terrorist organizations are greater threats than traditional powers like Russia and China.

It eliminates much of the ambiguity that has deliberately existed in American nuclear policy since the opening days of the Cold War. For the first time, the United States is explicitly committing not to use nuclear weapons against non-nuclear states that are in compliance with the Nuclear Non-Proliferation Treaty, even if they attacked the United States with biological or chemical weapons, or launched a crippling cyberattack.

Those threats, he argued, could be deterred with "a series of graded options" -- a combination of old and newly designed conventional weapons.

"I'm going to preserve all the tools that are necessary in order to make sure that the American people are safe and secure," Mr. Obama said during the interview in the Oval Office.

White House officials said that the new strategy will leave open the option of reconsidering the use of nuclear retaliation against a biological attack, if the development of such weapons reaches a level that makes United States vulnerable to a devastating strike.

Mr. Obama's new strategy is bound to be controversial, both among conservatives who have warned against diluting America's most potent deterrent, and among liberals who were hoping for a blanket statement that America would never be the first to use nuclear weapons.

Mr. Obama argued for a slower course, saying, "We are going to want to make sure that we can continue to move towards less emphasis on nuclear weapons," and, he added, to "make sure that our conventional weapons capability is an effective deterrent in all but the most extreme circumstances."

The release of the new strategy, known as the "Nuclear Posture Review," opens an intensive nine days of nuclear diplomacy geared toward reducing weapons. Mr. Obama's plans to fly to Prague to sign a new arms control agreement with Russia on Thursday and then next week will host 47 world leaders in Washington for a summit on nuclear security.

The most immediate test of the new strategy is likely to be in dealing with Iran, which has defied the international community by developing a nuclear program that it insists is peaceful but that the United States and its allies say is a precursor to weapons. Asked about the escalating confrontation with Iran, Mr. Obama said he was now convinced that "the current course they're are on would provide them with nuclear weapons capabilities," though he gave no timeline.

He dodged when asked whether he shared Israel's view that a "nuclear capable" Iran was as dangerous as one that actually possessed weapons.

"I'm not going to parse that right now," he said, sitting in his office as children played on the South Lawn of the White House during a day-long Easter Egg roll. However, he cited the example of North Korea, whose nuclear capabilities were unclear until it conducted a test in 2006, which it followed with a second shortly after Mr. Obama took office.

"I think it's safe to say that there was a time when North Korea was said to be simply a nuclear-capable state until it kicked out the IAEA and become a self-professed nuclear state," he said. "And so rather than splitting hairs on this, I think that the international community has a strong sense of what it means to pursue civilian nuclear energy for peaceful purposes versus a weaponizing capability."
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Neil

Obama's cowardice and stupidity know no bounds.

Pretty soon, we'll be joking about US rifles, never fired and only dropped once.
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CountDeMoney

Quote from: jimmy olsen on April 05, 2010, 07:49:05 PM
:rolleyes:
The only thing that will make nuclear weapons obsolete are orbital kinetic weapon platforms.

Fuck you, you fucking gimp.  Who are you to question national nuclear weapons policy.

Agelastus

Quote from: CountDeMoney on April 05, 2010, 08:00:30 PM
Quote from: jimmy olsen on April 05, 2010, 07:49:05 PM
:rolleyes:
The only thing that will make nuclear weapons obsolete are orbital kinetic weapon platforms.

Fuck you, you fucking gimp.  Who are you to question national nuclear weapons policy.

"He who controls the orbitals, controls the planet."
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The Best is yet to be
The last of life for which the first was made."

Fate

So basically he's surrendering over America to the nuclear terrorists.

Way to go, Obamateur. Can we impeach him for treason yet?

CountDeMoney

All this tells me is that the door is wide open for increased spending for conventional weapons.  That means more shit that can blow up other shit for TV.

Faeelin


Neil

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PDH!

Razgovory

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Kleves

I really don't want Obama dicking around with our nuclear doctrines, but this seems pretty meaningless.
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jimmy olsen

It is far better for the truth to tear my flesh to pieces, then for my soul to wander through darkness in eternal damnation.

Jet: So what kind of woman is she? What's Julia like?
Faye: Ordinary. The kind of beautiful, dangerous ordinary that you just can't leave alone.
Jet: I see.
Faye: Like an angel from the underworld. Or a devil from Paradise.
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Jaron

Obama was elected president in a place we call..

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Winner of THE grumbler point.

jimmy olsen

It is far better for the truth to tear my flesh to pieces, then for my soul to wander through darkness in eternal damnation.

Jet: So what kind of woman is she? What's Julia like?
Faye: Ordinary. The kind of beautiful, dangerous ordinary that you just can't leave alone.
Jet: I see.
Faye: Like an angel from the underworld. Or a devil from Paradise.
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1 Karma Chameleon point

Jaron

Winner of THE grumbler point.