"Anime is a prime example that two nukes just wasn't enough"

Started by Ed Anger, March 28, 2010, 09:24:56 AM

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Martinus

Quote from: Malthus on March 28, 2010, 03:22:36 PM
Quote from: Agelastus on March 28, 2010, 02:12:58 PM
One man's annoyance is another man's bread and butter... ;)

Although some conventions I can do without, myself. For example, the closing bloodbath that afflicts all bar one Gundam series, for example. Or the habit of trying to cloak a lack of a satisfying ending as some kind of metaphysical claptrap (although that seems to be less common now.) Or the lack of satisfying endings in general, since almost all studios seem to be infected with a mania for leaving things open for sequels that are never made.

One thing I find annoying in anime is the lack of noses.  ;)

My dog has no nose.

jimmy olsen

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Quote from: derspiess on March 28, 2010, 01:55:23 PM
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jimmy olsen

Quote from: Razgovory on March 28, 2010, 12:38:37 PM
Quote from: Peter Wiggin on March 28, 2010, 12:11:28 PM
Quote from: Tyr on March 28, 2010, 10:26:08 AM
Universally hating all anime is just as dumb a viewpoint as universally loving all anime.

Nah. Some people just don't like the aesthetic.

Also some people don't enjoy movies about androgynous teenage boys and school girls.
Not all anime is about that.
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Jet: So what kind of woman is she? What's Julia like?
Faye: Ordinary. The kind of beautiful, dangerous ordinary that you just can't leave alone.
Jet: I see.
Faye: Like an angel from the underworld. Or a devil from Paradise.
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Lettow77

 A weeaboo is just a western fan of anime to an obnoxious degree. A japonphile, primarily on the more immature aspects of their culture.

  And whispers of the heart was a charming movie.

Edit: this thread draws attention to the fact that Neil is always right.
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HisMajestyBOB

Quote from: Malthus on March 28, 2010, 01:46:11 PM
Heh, through watching the kiddie channels with Carl I've gotten into watching an anime-type show aimed squarely at 10 year olds, and I think it is quite good - "Avatar: The last Airbender". I hear that a movie version is comming out this summer.

The odd part is that this seems to be a blend of Western-style animation with anime.

It's a great show. :yes:

But the movie will suck :(
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jimmy olsen

Quote from: HisMajestyBOB on March 28, 2010, 07:13:59 PM
Quote from: Malthus on March 28, 2010, 01:46:11 PM
Heh, through watching the kiddie channels with Carl I've gotten into watching an anime-type show aimed squarely at 10 year olds, and I think it is quite good - "Avatar: The last Airbender". I hear that a movie version is comming out this summer.

The odd part is that this seems to be a blend of Western-style animation with anime.

It's a great show. :yes:

But the movie will suck :(
You're just trying to reverse jinx it.

You get my pm?

Have you checked out any of the shows I suggested?
It is far better for the truth to tear my flesh to pieces, then for my soul to wander through darkness in eternal damnation.

Jet: So what kind of woman is she? What's Julia like?
Faye: Ordinary. The kind of beautiful, dangerous ordinary that you just can't leave alone.
Jet: I see.
Faye: Like an angel from the underworld. Or a devil from Paradise.
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jimmy olsen

Quote from: Malthus on March 28, 2010, 01:46:11 PM
Heh, through watching the kiddie channels with Carl I've gotten into watching an anime-type show aimed squarely at 10 year olds, and I think it is quite good - "Avatar: The last Airbender". I hear that a movie version is comming out this summer.

The odd part is that this seems to be a blend of Western-style animation with anime.
It's a western show done in the anime style, the first good one I can think of.
It is far better for the truth to tear my flesh to pieces, then for my soul to wander through darkness in eternal damnation.

Jet: So what kind of woman is she? What's Julia like?
Faye: Ordinary. The kind of beautiful, dangerous ordinary that you just can't leave alone.
Jet: I see.
Faye: Like an angel from the underworld. Or a devil from Paradise.
--------------------------------------------
1 Karma Chameleon point

Martim Silva

Quote from: Agelastus
Or the lack of satisfying endings in general, since almost all studios seem to be infected with a mania for leaving things open for sequels that are never made.

Agelastus, you know better than that - anime is often made based on running manga series, and usually airs while the manga is going. All the episodes are usually completed years before the author ends his work, so the animators have no choice but to leave things open.

For the actual endings, 90% of the time you have to read the manga. InuYasha is a perfect example of this - even with 150+ episodes and 5 movies, the series only covers the first 36 volumes of the manga (which has 56 volumes altogether).

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Brazen

Quote from: Syt on March 28, 2010, 11:40:35 AM
Well, I grew up watching Captain Future (of course in the early 80s no one used the term "anime"), loving the sci-fi theme and design (now I know it's based off the stories of Edmond Hamilton). I don't watch much anime these days, though I found Elfen Lied both well written and emotionally a bit devastating. Most depressing story I've seen in a while.
Marine Boy was my childhood anime fix.

Valmy

Quote from: Razgovory on March 28, 2010, 12:38:37 PM
Also some people don't enjoy movies about androgynous teenage boys and school girls.

The Japanese have to use fiction to distract their population to the fact there are no actual children in their country anymore.
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Malthus

Quote from: HisMajestyBOB on March 28, 2010, 07:13:59 PM
Quote from: Malthus on March 28, 2010, 01:46:11 PM
Heh, through watching the kiddie channels with Carl I've gotten into watching an anime-type show aimed squarely at 10 year olds, and I think it is quite good - "Avatar: The last Airbender". I hear that a movie version is comming out this summer.

The odd part is that this seems to be a blend of Western-style animation with anime.

It's a great show. :yes:

But the movie will suck :(

It's an interesting mix, in that some of the topics are treated quite grimly (for example, the genocide described in the very title) whereas the on-screen violence is often pure child-friendly fantasy - the characters set out to capture but not kill each other, and even though blades are sometimes flying, they don't draw blood.

Certainly it has the most frightening 14 year old girl psycho I've ever seen depicted.  :D

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Kleves

Anime can be really inventive; there are some really cool ideas in anime, that you cannot really find elsewhere. Unfortunately, the Japanese usually seem to fail at characterization and general narrative coherence.
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Agelastus

Quote from: Martim Silva on March 29, 2010, 07:16:43 AM
Quote from: Agelastus
Or the lack of satisfying endings in general, since almost all studios seem to be infected with a mania for leaving things open for sequels that are never made.

Agelastus, you know better than that - anime is often made based on running manga series, and usually airs while the manga is going. All the episodes are usually completed years before the author ends his work, so the animators have no choice but to leave things open.

For the actual endings, 90% of the time you have to read the manga. InuYasha is a perfect example of this - even with 150+ episodes and 5 movies, the series only covers the first 36 volumes of the manga (which has 56 volumes altogether).

Martim Silva, you know better than this. A lot of anime is made that is not based on long running Manga series. Consider such examples as "Martian Successor Nadesico" or "Bubblegum Crisis, Tokyo 2040" for examples of either the non-ending or the resort to crap metaphysics.
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Syt

Speaking of ongoing manga series - Berserk has jumped the shark a couple years back (basically when Shiel(r)ke - depending on transliteration - joined up). Which is a shame, I really liked the series. I keep looking at the new books, but though I liked the Kushan invasion in prinnciple it was overall rather boring and predictable.
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