Pakistanis love Germans, Hitler.

[Syt]

Stollen from EUOT:

Spiegel Online: The Führer Cult: Germans Cringe at Hitler's Popularity in Pakistan

Germans are popular in India and Pakistan, but not always for the right reasons. Many in South Asia have nothing but admiration for Adolf Hitler and still associate Germany with the Third Reich. Everyday encounters with the love of all things Nazi makes German visitors cringe.

Pakistan is the opposite of Germany. The mountains are in the north, the sea is in the south, the economic problems are in the west and the east is doing well. It's not hard for a German living in Pakistan to get used to these differences, but one contrast is hard to stomach: Most people like Hitler.

I was recently at the hairdresser, an elderly man who doesn't resort to electric clippers. All he has is creaky pair of scissors, a comb, an aerosol with water. He did a neat job but I wasn't entirely happy.

I said: "I look like Hitler."

He looked at me in the mirror, gave a satisfied smile and said: "Yes, yes, very nice."

I decided not to challenge him, went home and tried to get rid of the strict parting he'd given me.

Embarrassing Moments

I was glad I avoided the usual Hitler conversation. Pakistanis always hone in on that topic whenever they talk to Germans. "We're Aryans too," they say, because there was an Indo-Germanic race, the Aryas. Besides, Hitler was a military genius, they add.

Sometimes it's better to keep quiet about one's German origins. It's embarrassing because people here think they're doing you a favor by expressing their admiration for the Nazi leader. I suspect most Indians and Pakistanis have no idea what this man did. They see him as the bold Führer who took on the British and Americans.

In the Islamic world, not just in Pakistan but right across from Iran to northern Africa, anti-Semitic sentiment of course plays a role. Conversations with German visitors rapidly turn to the injustice being suffered by the Palestinians who were robbed of their land.

The Desire to be Swallowed up by the Ground

One can try to cut such conversations short, like a German acquaintance of mine did recently. He told a taxi driver in Iran he should stop talking nonsense because he as a dark-skinned person wouldn't have survived long in Nazi Germany. The taxi driver looked at him surprised and said: "But I'm Aryan!"

The alternative is just to wish the ground would swallow you up, like when German friends visited us while we were staying with our Pakistani relatives in London. Out of the blue, one uncle started talking admiringly about Hitler, his supposed military feats and how he led Germany out of economic misery. Our friends just sat there stony-faced and didn't know what to say. Later on my parents apologized to them.

I don't know where this fascination comes from, not just for the Nazis but for all things German. Most people don't realize that today's Germany is very different from the Third Reich. It's not surprising. Many have never even been to the next big city in their own country, so how should they know what things are like in Germany these days?

"I Like Nazi"

As a result, many Pakistanis easily switch from Hitler to Mercedes ("Very excellent car, but a little too expensive"). A few days ago a white Mercedes built in the 1970s was driving ahead of me in the center of Islamabad carrying a family of seven. On the back was a sticker bearing a black swastika in a white circle. Underneath it read: "I like Nazi."

It's not just Muslims who maintain this Nazi cult. A few years ago, a Hindu businessman in India opened a restaurant called "Hitler's Cross," complete with a portrait of the Führer at the entrance. Another Hindu sold bed linen emblazoned with swastikas that had little to do with the Hindu swastika symbol for good luck. The sheets, pillow cases and bed spreads were advertised as being part of "The Nazi Collection." English editions of Hitler's "Mein Kampf" can be found in bookshops even in the most remote parts of India. And Indian schoolbooks have been known to celebrate Hitler as a great leader.

Once my wife and I visited the cafe in the beautiful Hotel Imperial in New Delhi. It has a garden lined with palms, excellent tea and friendly waiters in uniforms that recall the colonial era. A young man served us. The name tag on his uniform attracted my interest so I asked him why he had this rather unusual name for an Indian man. "Oh, my parents named me after a great historic person," he explained.

The name, in black letters on a golden plate, read: Adolf.

[The Brain]

[Josquius]

This stuff in Asia is a bit weird, its not just ignorant people in backwards countries either. The Japanese and Koreans are prone to it too.

Besides, Hitler was a military genius, they add.

[Crazy_Ivan80]

This stuff in Asia is a bit weird, its not just ignorant people in backwards countries either. The Japanese and Koreans are prone to it too.

Besides, Hitler was a military genius, they add.

Maybe the germans should rebuild a few camps and organise group-holidays there? With everything included (abuse, hard labour and the "shower").
't Might change their view on hitler a bit.

[Malthus]

 

I wonder if it is a bit like ordering General Tsao Chicken and finding out that General Tsao was some sort of genocidal maniac, for massacring Taiping rebels, Muslim rebels, etc. 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zuo_Zongtang

[Kleves]

Not really shocking- their textbooks are only current to 1942. Boy, are they in for a surprise.

[Kleves]

I wonder if it is a bit like ordering General Tsao Chicken and finding out that General Tsao was some sort of genocidal maniac, for massacring Taiping rebels, Muslim rebels, etc. 

I thought that was why everyone likes his chicken so much?

[Syt]

In related (old) news:

http://edition.cnn.com/2008/WORLD/asiapcf/02/25/india.names/index.html

Hitler, Frankenstein battle for votes in India

Think Barack Hussein Obama has it rough campaigning for president with a name like that? The Illinois senator has nothing on Frankenstein Momin. Or Billy Kid Sangma. Or Adolf Lu Hitler Marak.

The three men are among dozens of others with equally colorful names who are competing for legislative seats in Meghalaya, a remote northeast Indian state, on March 3.

There are about 60 seats up for grabs, 331 candidates vying, and no shortage of unusual names.

There's Britainwar Dan, Admiral Sangma and Bombersingh Hynniewta -- all ready for battle.

There's Laborious Manik Syiem and Hilarius Pohchen. Boldness Nongrum and Clever Marak. Even a Tony Curtis Lyngdoh.

"It would be unfair to have a laugh at these names. They're reflective of the names here," David R. Syiemlieh, professor of history at the North Eastern Hill University in the capital city of Shillong, told CNN on Monday.

Meghalaya ("Abode of the Clouds") is a state of 2.6 million people. It's predominantly Christian -- but hasn't always been.

When the indigenous tribes first converted to Christianity, the locals named their children after the missionaries who preached to them. Subsequent generations started favoring words and names they were familiar with but didn't have a good understanding of.

"They may have heard of these names and personalities and it sounded nice to them," Syiemlieh (pronounced Same-LEH) said. "But it doesn't mean that they relate to Hitler or Frankenstein."

The trend lately, however, has been toward a return to more tribal names, he said.

Prashant Naik, the chief electoral officer of the state, told CNN that a candidate's name matters little to the electorate -- because so many voters and politicians themselves have peculiar ones.

"You have Australia, you have New Zealand, there's even a Thailand," Naik said. "I don't think that should matter in how people vote."

It certainly hasn't in Hitler Marak's case. He has been elected to public office before, with one of his stints as forestry minister.

"Maybe my parents liked the name and hence christened me Hitler," he once told the Hindustan Times newspaper.

" I am happy with my name, although I don't have any dictatorial tendencies."

[HisMajestyBOB]

[citizen k]

Doesn't seem so odd when every other college kid in the West has a Che t-shirt or you see the hammer and sickle in fashion.

[garbon]

I wonder if it is a bit like ordering General Tsao Chicken and finding out that General Tsao was some sort of genocidal maniac, for massacring Taiping rebels, Muslim rebels, etc. 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zuo_Zongtang

Nah, orange chicken is tasty.

[Zanza]

Stollen

I'd like to have some Stollen now.

[ulmont]

Stollen

I'd like to have some Stollen now.

A fruitcake?  You poor poor man.

[Zanza]

I guess there is some hidden meaning in your words, but it eludes me.

[ulmont]

I guess there is some hidden meaning in your words, but it eludes me.

Not really.  Wiki describes "Stollen" as a "loaf shaped fruitcake."  Fruitcake is famously the worst holiday gift ever, one that no one wants to try.