Boss: I’d rather employ a paedo than a veteran

[Caliga]

Ed, didn't they change it to 'less than honorable discharge' or 'not honorable discharge' or something lame?

[Ed Anger]

Ed, didn't they change it to 'less than honorable discharge' or 'not honorable discharge' or something lame?

Other than Honorable is less severe than a dishonorable.

I think. I don't think they have jiggered with those too much.

[Caliga]

Hmmm... I interviewed a guy a few years ago who was less than honorably discharged or other than honorably discharged because he had failed a random drug screen (he peed hot for pot).

If that's not a 'dishonorable' discharge... I mean, do you have to do a My Lai or rape someone to get a dishonorable discharge?

[Martinus]

Hmmm... I interviewed a guy a few years ago who was less than honorably discharged or other than honorably discharged because he had failed a random drug screen (he peed hot for pot).

If that's not a 'dishonorable' discharge... I mean, do you have to do a My Lai or rape someone to get a dishonorable discharge?

Isn't that what gay people get too, under DADT?

[Ed Anger]

Hmmm... I interviewed a guy a few years ago who was less than honorably discharged or other than honorably discharged because he had failed a random drug screen (he peed hot for pot).

If that's not a 'dishonorable' discharge... I mean, do you have to do a My Lai or rape someone to get a dishonorable discharge?

Dishonorables are the criminals. I think they get treated like felons and lose the right to vote, own a gun, etc. etc. The OTH are the screw-ups.

[DGuller]

Isn't that what gay people get too, under DADT?

Depends on what they discharge into.

[Martinus]

According to wikipedia, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Military_discharge, General discharge is for stuff like DADT, OTH is for civilian court (usually minor) conviction and dishonorable is for court martial.

[Josquius]

Boss: I'd rather employ a paedo than a hero

Hero.

[dps]

There are 3 types of administrative discharge:  Honorable, General, and Other Than Honorable.  Since they are administrative, none of these involve a court-martial, though a serviceperson can appeal a General or Other Than Honorable discharge.  A General discharge means that there are some relatively minor performance or conduct issues, and the person remains eligible for most (though not all) veterens' benefits.  (FYI for Marty and other interested parties, discharges for homosexual conduct usually General discharges.)  An Other Than Honorable discharge is used in cases of more severe problems that still don't merit a court martial.  A person who receives an Other Than Honorable discharge will be ineligible for most veterens' benefits.

If an offense is serious enough to warrant a court-martial, then an enlisted person, if convicted, will be given either a Bad Conduct discharge or a Dishonorable discharge, usually after serving a term of imprisonment in a military prison.  A person who gets one of these will basically forfeit all veterens' benefits;  in addition, a person who gets a Dishonorable discharge may face further penalties even after leaving the service, for example, federal law bars a person who received a Dishonorable dischage from owning firearms, and some states won't allow a person with a Dishonorable discarge to vote (which makes sense in that some states don't allow convicted felons to vote, and someone who got a Dishonorable discharge was essentially convicted of a felony, just by a military court).  Officers don't get Bad Conduct or Dishonorable discharges;  if convicted by a court martial, they are subject to dismissal, which is basically the same as a Dishonorable discharge.  (A discharge or dismissal is not automatic on conviction by a court martial--it has to be included as part of the sentence, but AFAIK, it is pretty much standard for it to be included.)

And Cal:  yeah, basically to get a Dishonorable discharge you have to be guilty of serious shit, like rape or murder--pretty much something that would be a major felony if committed by a civilian.  The only thing that I think of that would get you a Dishonorable discharge that wouldn't be likely to get you a substantial prison term in civilian life would be desertion.

[garbon]

Boss: I'd rather employ a paedo than a hero

Hero.

Given what he said about soldiers, I doubt he called them heroes.

[Syt]

So, would the guy employ Siegy?

[MadImmortalMan]

And while I am at it, I hope you have a cancer relapse, you miserable piece of shit excuse for a human being. Die pls.

After that first post, I was wondering if you were slipping. Nope. 

[Caliga]

So, would the guy employ Siegy?

I'd employ Seigey, assuming he was otherwise qualified for whatever he applied to.  I like people who aren't afraid to pull the trigger.  I have to deal with too much of that shit now as it is.

[Razgovory]

So, would the guy employ Siegy?

I'd employ Seigey, assuming he was otherwise qualified for whatever he applied to.  I like people who aren't afraid to pull the trigger.  I have to deal with too much of that shit now as it is.

Might be awkward when he brought the goat carcass to work though.

[Neil]

The writing on that article is so jingoistic that it has gone to colonize Rhodesia again.

Since when did 'hero' become a synonym for 'serviceman'?