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The Vatican is haunted----by Satan! OMG

Started by MadImmortalMan, March 10, 2010, 07:50:34 PM

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Ed Anger

Quote from: Caliga on March 11, 2010, 04:29:44 PM
Quote from: ulmont on March 11, 2010, 03:41:03 PM
Quote from: Malthus on March 11, 2010, 03:38:13 PM
Christians believe that "the serpent" is actually the Devil in the guise of a serpent. There is nothing in the text to hint that this is actually the case.

Nothing in Genesis, no.  Explicitly stated in the Book of Revelations, mind you.

QuoteAnd he laid hold on the dragon, that old serpent, which is the Devil, and Satan, and bound him a thousand years
I wish the whole Bible read like the Book of Revelations.  It's like God decided to ask Iron Maiden to write the final book or something. :punk:

Hopefully, God would actually use a good band.
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The Minsky Moment

Quote from: Malthus on March 11, 2010, 03:20:07 PM
He isn't. He is never mentioned in Genesis.

Unless one ascribes that identity to the angel that wrestles with Jacob, but then you have a rather different sort of Satan than the one we are familiar with.

QuoteIn the OT, Satan is a bit player in the Book of Job

A book which along with Esther seems to have made the canonical cut only through negligent editorial oversight.
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Caliga

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Ed Anger

Quote from: Caliga on March 11, 2010, 06:59:41 PM
Quote from: Ed Anger on March 11, 2010, 06:34:28 PM
Hopefully, God would actually use a good band.
:ultra:

I can't help it is Iron Maiden is shit, and hope anybody wearing a Iron Maiden T-shirt is kicked in the balls.
Stay Alive...Let the Man Drive

ulmont


Caliga

Quote from: ulmont on March 11, 2010, 08:24:08 PM
Up the Irons!
:cool: :punk:

Dudes, seriously, 'Number of the Beast' is one of the greatest metal songs ever--and of course perfectly appropriate to any discussion about what metal group should have written Revelations. :D
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Malthus

Quote from: The Minsky Moment on March 11, 2010, 06:53:11 PM
Quote from: Malthus on March 11, 2010, 03:20:07 PM
He isn't. He is never mentioned in Genesis.

Unless one ascribes that identity to the angel that wrestles with Jacob, but then you have a rather different sort of Satan than the one we are familiar with.

QuoteIn the OT, Satan is a bit player in the Book of Job

A book which along with Esther seems to have made the canonical cut only through negligent editorial oversight.

What's wrong with Esther? A religion without a commandment that young ladies shall, once a year, dress up like Persian whores and get drunk would be a poor thing indeed!  :(
The object of life is not to be on the side of the majority, but to escape finding oneself in the ranks of the insane—Marcus Aurelius

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:p

Sheilbh

Quote from: Caliga on March 10, 2010, 07:51:42 PM
I think it's cute when people believe in Satan.  I mean, much more so than in God.
I think it's easier to believe in Satan than in God.
Let's bomb Russia!

Martinus

Quote from: Sheilbh on March 13, 2010, 10:40:06 PM
Quote from: Caliga on March 10, 2010, 07:51:42 PM
I think it's cute when people believe in Satan.  I mean, much more so than in God.
I think it's easier to believe in Satan than in God.

Good point. At least you have some empirical evidence that does not directly disprove the hypothesis of there being a malevolent non-omnipotent, non-omniscient, non-omnipresent entity. The same cannot be said about the existence of a benevolent, omnipotent, omniscient and omnipresent deity.