Vladmir Putin forging ahead with vision of Eurasian empire

Started by jimmy olsen, March 11, 2010, 12:22:08 AM

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Grallon

Hmmm... might be what is needed to counter China - their agendas are sure to conflict.  :cool:





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Admiral Yi

Read in Time that France recently sold Russia 4 Mistral class amphibious assault ships.  IIRC it's the first case of Russia buying weaponry from a NATO country.

DGuller

Is there anything preventing a country from buying a military piece, and then Chineseing it so that you can make it yourself?

Viking

Quote from: Admiral Yi on March 11, 2010, 11:20:05 AM
Read in Time that France recently sold Russia 4 Mistral class amphibious assault ships.  IIRC it's the first case of Russia buying weaponry from a NATO country.

Medvedev declared NATO to be Russias enemy, shortly after that France sells Russia Ships. That combined with lack of French support in Afghanistan, their sabotage of the Kosovo campaign and other issues. Is it time to kick France out of NATO? (and belgium with it?)
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Syt

Quote from: DGuller on March 11, 2010, 11:22:41 AM
Is there anything preventing a country from buying a military piece, and then Chineseing it so that you can make it yourself?

Except making it less likely that anyone sells you anything anymore?
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Sheilbh

Quote from: Viking on March 11, 2010, 11:39:36 AM
Medvedev declared NATO to be Russias enemy, shortly after that France sells Russia Ships. That combined with lack of French support in Afghanistan, their sabotage of the Kosovo campaign and other issues. Is it time to kick France out of NATO? (and belgium with it?)
France has around 4000 troops in Afghanistan (largely in the East of the country and the Khyber pass, largely under American command) as well as keeping one of their fleets in the area - including the Charles de Gaulle.  They've doubled their presence over the last couple of years and Sarko's suggested they might send a further 5000 troops.
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Warspite

Quote from: Sheilbh on March 13, 2010, 07:12:15 PM
Quote from: Viking on March 11, 2010, 11:39:36 AM
Medvedev declared NATO to be Russias enemy, shortly after that France sells Russia Ships. That combined with lack of French support in Afghanistan, their sabotage of the Kosovo campaign and other issues. Is it time to kick France out of NATO? (and belgium with it?)
France has around 4000 troops in Afghanistan (largely in the East of the country and the Khyber pass, largely under American command) as well as keeping one of their fleets in the area - including the Charles de Gaulle.  They've doubled their presence over the last couple of years and Sarko's suggested they might send a further 5000 troops.

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Razgovory

Quote from: DGuller on March 11, 2010, 11:22:41 AM
Is there anything preventing a country from buying a military piece, and then Chineseing it so that you can make it yourself?

Competence?
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DisturbedPervert

Quote from: DGuller on March 11, 2010, 11:22:41 AM
Is there anything preventing a country from buying a military piece, and then Chineseing it so that you can make it yourself?

Technology transfer is often part of the deal

Siege

4000 french troops?

When are they going to pull their weight and send 40 000?



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Neil

Quote from: Syt on March 11, 2010, 12:06:31 PM
Quote from: DGuller on March 11, 2010, 11:22:41 AM
Is there anything preventing a country from buying a military piece, and then Chineseing it so that you can make it yourself?
Except making it less likely that anyone sells you anything anymore?
Which was why before Israel started selling US military tech to China, they were 20-30 years behind the rest of the world.

Then again, given how easy it is to spy on the West these days, the Russians would have no trouble keeping up.  In fact, the Israelis have been infiltrated to the extent that even if they weren't despicable cowards, they would turn anything they are given over to the Russians anyways.
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