Toyota recall hearings

[Savonarola]

It seems in these more bizarre incidents, that the Toyota's electronics just took over. Car sped up greatly, and neither braking, shutting off the ignition, nor shifting out of a drive gear had much or any effect. That is pretty bizarre.

I Robot? 

My Toyota has not tried to kill me yet. 

Maybe it's like the end of Revenge of the Sith; the Toyotas are programmed to kil lthe Jedi and leave the Sith alone.

[lustindarkness]

It seems in these more bizarre incidents, that the Toyota's electronics just took over. Car sped up greatly, and neither braking, shutting off the ignition, nor shifting out of a drive gear had much or any effect. That is pretty bizarre.

I Robot? 

My Toyota has not tried to kill me yet. 

Maybe it's like the end of Revenge of the Sith; the Toyotas are programmed to kil lthe Jedi and leave the Sith alone.

Amen.

[alfred russel]

To the extent there is a breach of law (e.g. corruption) or it involves e.g. public procurement procedures, yes. But not when there is essentially a commercial private dispute ("you sold us a shitty car") - this is what civil courts are for, not congressional hearings.

Congress is responsible for authorizing the funding for purchases, and it is very much in the business of considering the vendor and the locations of production (whether it shoud be or not isn't worth discussion).

If Congress is buying cars from an auto maker that may be selling a defective product, why not investigate to see whether future car purchases are warranted? Civil courts have no role in that process.

[Zanza]

I very much doubt the US government has ever bought any Toyotas.

Why not?
In the EU, all big public contracts are open for all bidders, including e.g. Toyota. I know that the Germany Army bought over 1000 Nissan SUVs last year.

  The US government follows US, not EU, laws regarding procurement contracts.  What the German Army bought doesn't impact US government procurement at all.

If that's an attempt at witty humour, you fail miserably.

[alfred russel]

And as much as I hate televised congressional hearings on just about anything, considering they do create auto safety legislation, it is a good thing for congress to look into potential death traps that are being sold under the label of Toyota.

[grumbler]

  The US government follows US, not EU, laws regarding procurement contracts.  What the German Army bought doesn't impact US government procurement at all.

I promised myself to ignore your posts, but this post's idiocy exceeds even your usual standards. Are you fucking retarded?

No, it is true.  You can look it up, or ask a lawyer:  the US has its own procurement laws, and does not use those of the EU.

It is hugely fucking funny that you would call someone aware of that fact "fucking retarded' when the fucking retard is obviously the one who doesn't know that basic (and rather obvious) fact.

[The Brain]

This thread delivers.

[grumbler]

I very much doubt the US government has ever bought any Toyotas.

Why not?
In the EU, all big public contracts are open for all bidders, including e.g. Toyota. I know that the Germany Army bought over 1000 Nissan SUVs last year.

  The US government follows US, not EU, laws regarding procurement contracts.  What the German Army bought doesn't impact US government procurement at all.

If that's an attempt at witty humour, you fail miserably.

It is a simple statement of facts, which answers your question (which was apparently based on your perception that the US government followed EU law, else you wouldn't have brought up EU law in discussing US government procurement).  As I note, I have no clue why you brought up German Army procurement; not even you could think that affects US government procurement.

[citizen k]

Wow, Grandpa Grumbler being willfully obtuse. Say it ain't so. 

[DGuller]

Wow, Grandpa Grumbler being willfully obtuse. Say it ain't so. 

Sometimes I wonder about the "willfully" part.

[grumbler]

Wow, Grandpa Grumbler being willfully obtuse. Say it ain't so. 

 

Yes, I should have responded to what was not written, because responding to what was written is "willfully obtuse." 

Sorry, homey doesn't play that game.  If people cannot write clearly, they should reconsider writing at all. 

And you should stick to what I say, rather than telling a lie about why I am saying it.

[The Brain]

This gets better and better.

[grumbler]

This gets better and better.

Glad you are enjoying it.  Slargos isn't here to join in the dogpile any more, but Gral is around, so there is hope for more.

[dps]

  The US government follows US, not EU, laws regarding procurement contracts.  What the German Army bought doesn't impact US government procurement at all.

I promised myself to ignore your posts, but this post's idiocy exceeds even your usual standards. Are you fucking retarded?

No, it is true.  You can look it up, or ask a lawyer:  the US has its own procurement laws, and does not use those of the EU.

It is hugely fucking funny that you would call someone aware of that fact "fucking retarded' when the fucking retard is obviously the one who doesn't know that basic (and rather obvious) fact.

It should be abundantly clear by now that Marty doesn't understand US law.  And considering that he doesn't practice law here, normally that's understandable.   That he doesn't seem to grasp the concept that Congressional hearings are largely a matter of politicians grandstanding, well, that's new.

[garbon]

Poor Zanza. Cease and desist.