Dozens held in Turkish 'coup plot'

[Tamas]

Turkey didn't side with the Nazis.  And it wasn't a soviet puppet state.  That's 2 points for Turkey over Hungary.

The Raz makes a pretty compelling point.

I was waiting for a Mohacs joke

[Ed Anger]

Turkey didn't side with the Nazis.  And it wasn't a soviet puppet state.  That's 2 points for Turkey over Hungary.

The Raz makes a pretty compelling point.

I was waiting for a Mohacs joke

Fuck, you people have sucked since Otto anal raped your nation at Lechfeld.

[Queequeg]

Actually, they sucked before that.  They were the bitches of Aryans, and then the bitches of Turks, who forced them in to one of the Steppe's primary retirement homes; the Pannonian Plane. 

[Razgovory]

Turkey didn't side with the Nazis.  And it wasn't a soviet puppet state.  That's 2 points for Turkey over Hungary.

The Raz makes a pretty compelling point.

I don't even know what is being discussed.  I just like attacking eastern Europeans.

[Berkut]

Turkey didn't side with the Nazis.  And it wasn't a soviet puppet state.  That's 2 points for Turkey over Hungary.

The Raz makes a pretty compelling point.

I don't even know what is being discussed. 

I suspect that is the secret to your success.

[Tamas]

Actually, they sucked before that.  They were the bitches of Aryans, and then the bitches of Turks, who forced them in to one of the Steppe's primary retirement homes; the Pannonian Plane.

Did the mighty Ottomans ever manage to conquer entire Hungary? No. We stopped them We bled dry in the process, but we stopped them.

And whoever pushed us out of Ukraine we owe him one.

[Razgovory]

Actually, they sucked before that.  They were the bitches of Aryans, and then the bitches of Turks, who forced them in to one of the Steppe's primary retirement homes; the Pannonian Plane.

Did the mighty Ottomans ever manage to conquer entire Hungary? No. We stopped them We bled dry in the process, but we stopped them.

And whoever pushed us out of Ukraine we owe him one.

Where were you in this is whole process?

[Tamas]

Actually, they sucked before that.  They were the bitches of Aryans, and then the bitches of Turks, who forced them in to one of the Steppe's primary retirement homes; the Pannonian Plane.

Did the mighty Ottomans ever manage to conquer entire Hungary? No. We stopped them We bled dry in the process, but we stopped them.

And whoever pushed us out of Ukraine we owe him one.

Where were you in this is whole process?

Much closer than Psellus to his admired mounted goat herders.

[Queequeg]

Oh yeah; Ukraine is such a TERRIBLE place.  It just has the best soil in the world, a lot of coal, and some of the best rivers for hydro-electricity.  Terrible, awful place.  Who would live there when they have vampire-infested mountains and goat-speckled hills? 

And you didn't stop the Ottomans; the Saffavids and the intervention of the Poles did. 

Much closer than Psellus to his admired mounted goat herders.

My ancestors were in France, England and on the Crusade. Yours were the primitive woodland peoples conquered and subjugated by Slavs.  About the same distance. 

[Berkut]

Queequee is right - I just got done saving the Hungarians while going on to win the game in Here I Stand at NBW, so it must be true.

[Tamas]

Oh yeah; Ukraine is such a TERRIBLE place.  It just has the best soil in the world, a lot of coal, and some of the best rivers for hydro-electricity.  Terrible, awful place.  Who would live there when they have vampire-infested mountains and goat-speckled hills? 

And you didn't stop the Ottomans; the Saffavids and the intervention of the Poles did. 

Much closer than Psellus to his admired mounted goat herders.

My ancestors were in France, England and on the Crusade. Yours were the primitive woodland peoples conquered and subjugated by Slavs.  About the same distance.

FYI, neither Raz, nor I was serious about this "my great-great-great-great-great-great granddad could beat up your great-great-great-great-great-great granddad" thing. It is very lame.
Still, for historical accuracy, we conquered the slavs, not vice versa. Even they admit that much.

And for Ukraine: it sucks. Present and historical suckiness aside, every people there on the plains were slavified, we choosed to have mountains as borders and managed to survive. Which in fact, I think is a pretty nice accomplishment considering the circumstances.

Aaanyway, back to topic. There is one hot-headed Turk over at Paradox, who claims you can get into trouble if your wife is no scarfed. Is that true? Or they are not that enlightened yet? The guy claims to know several of the arrested officers, so he is not exactly an unemtional source. 

[Neil]

I'm sorry, but I really can't take you seriously after you claim an experience bonus over me thanks to a shared "Balkan mentality" (although Hungary is only occasionally considered part of the Balkans), when I'm living here and have extensively studied Turkish culture and politics.  You are starting to descend in to Sarah Palin Putin-Poking levels.

You're too close to the issue.  You're unable to keep matters in perspective.

[Queequeg]

I was joking, too.  Hungary is an interesting place, and I have nothing against it.  Other than its inherit inferiority to both Greece and Turkey, that is. 

That would depend entirely upon the area of Turkey.  In Istanbul, in many of the neighborhoods I go to, I see fewer hijabs and niqabs than I do on my hometown campus.  Go in to Van or thereabouts, and the situation is very different.  However, "the situation" is often due to the fact that the Kurdish population is very, very conservative. 

[Neil]

The USSR was not Evil. 

Yes it was.  There's no other word for it.

[Syt]

There's no other word for it.

Heh, that phrase is for me always connected to Rio Bravo, where John Wayne speaks those words. Which in my mind just caused Nixon to speak with the Duke's voice.