[PC]Civilization V coming!

[Tonitrus]

While I agree that SMAC 2 would be awesome; I also know that the "nostalgic niche gamer" market is really pretty damn small.

Civ keeps going, because it can at least manage to garner some appeal from the masses.

[MadImmortalMan]

New combat system is intriguing. I'd like to see some details on that. It's the one thing that has had basically no improvement since CIV1.

Grals---You can easily mod the tech tree to be divergent depending on the research choices you make. That would be an interesting basis for a mod, I think.

[Syt]

A Dane on P'dox has summed up from a Danish games rag:

I just wrote down the main points of the article.

- Switch from squares to hexagons changing the way the game plays. More room for maneuvers and more tactical options.
- Changes to combat. More depth in combat, no more stacking of units. This will lead to bigger focus on terrain.
- Inspired by Panzer General.
- Reintroduction of Bombardment, now archers and siege equipment can shoot over melee units.
- Better diplomatic AI.
- More diplomatic options between players.
- Less "cheating" AI.
- Religion is not a factor anymore.
- Ressources are not infinite. For example one source of horse only supplies enough horses for 1 unit, but when that horseman dies the horses will respawn as a unit. (this confused me alittle, i guess we will have to watch it in action)
- City States as a sort of small countries that never develop beyond their single city. They can provide bonusses if you befriend them, or you can take over their land.
- Civics are out, now there is something called "Social Policies".
- About the same amount of wonders, the tech tree will feel familiar. Great People still in.
- Some victory conditions changed. For example in Conquest you only have to capture all the other capitals. Eliminates boring mop up phase.
- Unique Civ leader bonusses, no more standard "Spiritual" or "Financial".
- DirectX 11 support.
- Built in webbrowser. Sid Meier is also working on a facebook application of Civilization.

[Razgovory]

I liked the religion aspect.

[The Minsky Moment]

I've often stated here how Civ games are always built on the same model: start point A - run your civ through the tech tree - end point Z - thus linear.

Even though Im sure you got my point but was only trying to be snarky

That is at the core of what Civ as a game is.  It's like complaining about American football because players can use their hands to touch the ball and there are too many breaks in play.

[Agelastus]

That is at the core of what Civ as a game is.  It's like complaining about American football because players can use their hands to touch the ball and there are too many breaks in play.

Agree with the first part, not with the second part. American football does have too many breaks in play. I am fairly sure that I have read that when the rules were originally codified the game did not have as many breaks in play as it does today. I much prefer the fluidity of Non-ELV Rugby Union.

[Jacob]

Fuck yeah!  Can't wait to get this!

Too bad that they're taking religions out, they're a lot of fun.

[Razgovory]

Fuck yeah!  Can't wait to get this!

Too bad that they're taking religions out, they're a lot of fun.

Probably saving it for an add on.

[Fate]

I like that they're returning more to a Civ3/SMAC look rather than the cartoonish style of Civ4.

[Josquius]

I was thinking its odd that there seemed to be a age between 2 and 3 then 4 came soon and now 5...but checking back 4 came out 5 years ago. Doesn't seem so long ago.

I approve.

[Seen]

I love the hexes, hope the 'none stacking' will work in mp and lets hope religion is modded in asap.

Cant wait

[PDH]

Panzer Civilization sounds cool.

[Martinus]

I'm disappointed noone said the map sucks.

I'm kinda sad they are removing religions but otherwise it looks cool.

[Grallon]

That is at the core of what Civ as a game is.  It's like complaining about American football because players can use their hands to touch the ball and there are too many breaks in play.

Terrible analogy.  The development of a civilization shouldn't be equated with the progress of a game set with arbitrary rules.





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[Ed Anger]

Panzer Civilization sounds cool.

The Norway map is gonna be super hard.