UK-Israel relations hit the rocks over Dubai assanation

[Gups]

Nobody in the Govt has described this as an "outrage".

Are you saying the UK foreign secretary is not in the govt?

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/8521246.stm

David Miliband vows to "get to the bottom" of how the alleged killers of a Hamas leader used fake UK passports in what he calls an "outrage"

My mistake. I was only going by the article in the OP.

[grumbler]

Wow, what a load of bullshit. Being angry at Israel for putting lives of citizens of a friendly country in danger makes one an antisemite now?

Wow, what stupendous lack of reading ability!  Being unable to even distinguish between Israelis and Jews is, indeed, antisemitic.  If one is angry at the actions of the Israeli government, one does not launch a diatribe against "fucking Jews" unless one is antisemitic.

[Warspite]

Yes, the whole thing is an outrage. Protestors are flooding Whitehall and Trafalgar Square as we speak.

[Viking]

MI6 has never used forged passports?  Hmm . . .

UK response seems a tad on the hysterical side.  If this is an "outrage" what descriptors are left when something really serious happens?

Two early casualties of this affair:
+ Mossad reputation for operational competence and plausible deniability
+ British reputation for calm understatement.

There is a difference between forging passports and actually using names and identities of existing innocent British citizens.

It's absolutely amazing to what lengths you will always go to defend your Israeli buddies. They can do no wrong, can they?

If you are going to fake a passport, then you might as well use a real name with the real passport number. The Brits are right to be furious about it, the passport is the Property of the Government that issued to it.

While I usually defend my Israeli buddies to the hilt, I don't think they should be going around killing people in hotel rooms or small cafés in Lillehammer. While he probably deserved being murdered, Israel could legally and legitimately kill him by bombing the capital of country Israel is at war with.

[Martinus]

Wow, what a load of bullshit. Being angry at Israel for putting lives of citizens of a friendly country in danger makes one an antisemite now?

Wow, what stupendous lack of reading ability!  Being unable to even distinguish between Israelis and Jews is, indeed, antisemitic.  If one is angry at the actions of the Israeli government, one does not launch a diatribe against "fucking Jews" unless one is antisemitic.

It's quite clear from both the context of my post and its content that I was speaking about the Israelis, and more precisely, of the Israeli government. It is a figure of speech that is ubiquitous on Languish; people talk about "Americans" when they are talking about the US government doing something; the Falklands thread is full of voices against the "Argies" and it is quite normal to talk about "Russians" or the "Chinese" when criticizing the governments of these countries (for example Raz does it in this very thread, but I don't see you accusing him of Russophobia either).

In this context, only someone operating at an extreme level of intellectual dishonesty or an extreme mental disability could interpret my post as talking about Jews, as an ethnic group.

[The Minsky Moment]

Nobody in the Govt has described this as an "outrage".

The Martinus Post quoted Milliband as using those words.

I may have erred in assuming the accuracy of that particular press outlet.   

[DisturbedPervert]

Fucking Jews think they can do anything because their American fuckbuddies will protect them.

And what would happen if their American fuckbuddies weren't there to protect them?

[The Minsky Moment]

There is a difference between forging passports and actually using names and identities of existing innocent British citizens.

It's absolutely amazing to what lengths you will always go to defend your Israeli buddies.

Surely it's not "amazing".  "Disappointing" should suffice.

[Ed Anger]

Wow, what a load of bullshit. Being angry at Israel for putting lives of citizens of a friendly country in danger makes one an antisemite now?

Wow, what stupendous lack of reading ability!  Being unable to even distinguish between Israelis and Jews is, indeed, antisemitic.  If one is angry at the actions of the Israeli government, one does not launch a diatribe against "fucking Jews" unless one is antisemitic.

It's quite clear from both the context of my post and its content that I was speaking about the Israelis, and more precisely, of the Israeli government. It is a figure of speech that is ubiquitous on Languish; people talk about "Americans" when they are talking about the US government doing something; the Falklands thread is full of voices against the "Argies" and it is quite normal to talk about "Russians" or the "Chinese" when criticizing the governments of these countries (for example Raz does it in this very thread, but I don't see you accusing him of Russophobia either).

In this context, only someone operating at an extreme level of intellectual dishonesty or an extreme mental disability could interpret my post as talking about Jews, as an ethnic group.

I'm a lovable scamp when I do it.

[Agelastus]

Wow, what a load of bullshit. Being angry at Israel for putting lives of citizens of a friendly country in danger makes one an antisemite now?

Wow, what stupendous lack of reading ability!  Being unable to even distinguish between Israelis and Jews is, indeed, antisemitic.  If one is angry at the actions of the Israeli government, one does not launch a diatribe against "fucking Jews" unless one is antisemitic.

It's quite clear from both the context of my post and its content that I was speaking about the Israelis, and more precisely, of the Israeli government. It is a figure of speech that is ubiquitous on Languish; people talk about "Americans" when they are talking about the US government doing something; the Falklands thread is full of voices against the "Argies" and it is quite normal to talk about "Russians" or the "Chinese" when criticizing the governments of these countries (for example Raz does it in this very thread, but I don't see you accusing him of Russophobia either).

In this context, only someone operating at an extreme level of intellectual dishonesty or an extreme mental disability could interpret my post as talking about Jews, as an ethnic group.

Maybe you should remember that "Israel", "Israeli" and "Jew" are not synonymous. Nobody would have complained if you had said "fucking Israelis" instead of "fucking Jews".

Your examples are not comparable at all, even in the case of using "American" in English for inhabitants of the "United States of America". As you must realise, there's not really another short form of that in English other than the more pejorative term, "Yanks".

Or to be precise:

Argentina - "Argies"
Russia - "Russians"
China - "Chinese"
United States of America - "Americans"
Israel - "Israelis" NOT "Jews".

[Malthus]

Fucking Jews think they can do anything because their American fuckbuddies will protect them.

And what would happen if their American fuckbuddies weren't there to protect them?

They would be thrashed by angry Arabs, just like they were in 1948. 1956 and 1967.

[The Brain]

Fucking Jews think they can do anything because their American fuckbuddies will protect them.

And what would happen if their American fuckbuddies weren't there to protect them?

They would be thrashed by angry Arabs, just like they were in 1948. 1956 and 1967.

Looks like someone should read up on Israeli history.

[Martinus]

Wow, what a load of bullshit. Being angry at Israel for putting lives of citizens of a friendly country in danger makes one an antisemite now?

Wow, what stupendous lack of reading ability!  Being unable to even distinguish between Israelis and Jews is, indeed, antisemitic.  If one is angry at the actions of the Israeli government, one does not launch a diatribe against "fucking Jews" unless one is antisemitic.

It's quite clear from both the context of my post and its content that I was speaking about the Israelis, and more precisely, of the Israeli government. It is a figure of speech that is ubiquitous on Languish; people talk about "Americans" when they are talking about the US government doing something; the Falklands thread is full of voices against the "Argies" and it is quite normal to talk about "Russians" or the "Chinese" when criticizing the governments of these countries (for example Raz does it in this very thread, but I don't see you accusing him of Russophobia either).

In this context, only someone operating at an extreme level of intellectual dishonesty or an extreme mental disability could interpret my post as talking about Jews, as an ethnic group.

Maybe you should remember that "Israel", "Israeli" and "Jew" are not synonymous. Nobody would have complained if you had said "fucking Israelis" instead of "fucking Jews".

Your examples are not comparable at all, even in the case of using "American" in English for inhabitants of the "United States of America". As you must realise, there's not really another short form of that in English other than the more pejorative term, "Yanks".

Or to be precise:

Argentina - "Argies"
Russia - "Russians"
China - "Chinese"
United States of America - "Americans"
Israel - "Israelis" NOT "Jews".

Ok. I thought they can be used interchangeably (I mean, Jews can mean both Israelis and people of Jewish ethnicity, depending on the context). Notice that Tamas made the same mistake (assuming this is a mistake). In Polish for example, the word for "Jews" and "Israelis" is the same.

[Legbiter]

Sloppy of Mossad to drop him in an international hotel with full CCTV but otherwise, good job.

[The Brain]

In Polish for example, the word for "Jews" and "Israelis" is the same.

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