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Started by alfred russel, February 15, 2010, 11:42:47 AM

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alfred russel

Evan Bayh to retire. Another Senate seat to the Republicans. Time to push health care through--there probably won't be another good chance for the rest of Obama's presidency.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20100215/ap_on_el_se/us_senate_bayh_retires_4
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Caliga

An awful lot of Congressmen seem to be "retiring" early these days :tinfoil:
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Fate

What a gutless worm.  :lol:

Hansmeister

Tomorrow is the deadline to file, which means Bayh pretty much guaranteed a GOP pickup.  This increases the number of safe GOP pickups in the Senate to 5, with another half dozen seats in the toss-up category.

Scipio

WTF is Bayh thinking?
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Jacob

Quote from: Scipio on February 15, 2010, 02:48:52 PM
WTF is Bayh thinking?

One of:

1. "Better quit before the really nasty scandal hits."  This requires a scandal to be avoided.

2. "Fuck you, I'm out and napalming by bridges.  This is what you get."  This requires some internal Democratic divisions and power plays.

Just a guess.

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jimmy olsen

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Wow, this really surprised me. Bayh was up by double digits and had $13 million in his warchest. I guess the failure of the jobs bill (Reid's fault) and the deficit commission (GOP's fault) were the last straw. The Senate flipping to the Republicans actually looks like a possibility now.

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2010/02/16/possibility_of_a_republican_senate_grows_104413.html
QuotePossibility of a Republican Senate Grows
By Sean Trende

Evan Bayh's surprise announcement that he would not seek a third term has sent shockwaves through the pundit class on an otherwise quiet President's Day.  It also upset a year's worth of comfortable predictions that Republicans would never take back the Senate in 2010.  This, combined with other recent political developments, places a 50-50 Senate within reach for the Republican caucus.

The immediate impact of Bayh's announcement is that it leaves Democrats scrambling for a candidate. Bayh's bombshell comes right before the filing deadline, with a murky process unfolding for the Democrats. Right now, the only declared Democratic candidate is restaurant owner and activist Tamyra D'Ippolito, though it seems unlikely that she will gather the additional 1,000 signatures that she needs to qualify for the ballot (Conservative websites are already mounting an effort to "help" her). The state Democratic committee will likely fill the empty slot on the ballot this spring.

Right now speculation is focusing on two conservative Democrats from Downstate: Brad Ellsworth and Baron Hill.  Ellsworth has represented the Eighth district since 2006 and has compiled a conservative voting record, while Hill represented the Ninth from 1998-2004 and again from 2006 through the present.  Ellsworth in particular has a pro-life, pro-gun record that would seem to fit the profile of the state well.

But no Democrat running will have the stature of Evan Bayh.  Having served statewide since 1986 and having developed a moderate reputation over the course of that twenty-five year career, he is virtually irreplaceable in a reddish state like Indiana.  Indeed, Hill was showing weakness in polling in his own district, much less statewide.  Regardless of whom Democrats nominate, they'll certainly lack the reputation and recognition that would accompany a Bayh candidacy, in the worst possible year for this to happen to the Democrats.  This race almost certainly starts out at least leaning to the Republicans.

Bayh's announcement obviously has a signifcant impact on the larger Senate landscape as well. Republicans already have an edge in all of their vulnerable Senate seats this November. Six Democratic Senate seats already lean toward the Republicans - and Blanche Lincoln's and Harry Reid's positions have probably deteriorated further since we looked at them in late January. Picking up these six seats plus Bayh's would put the Republicans at 48 seats, needing only two more seats to split power with the Democrats starting in 2011.

At the same time, Democratic prospects for holding President Obama's former Senate seat in Illinois have deteriorated somewhat. Democratic candidate Alexi Giannoulias limped out of the Democratic primary with 36% of the vote. He begins the general election trailing Republican Mark Kirk by six points in a Rasmussen Reports survey taken after the February 2nd primary, and unable to get above 42% of the vote in any recent trial heat (not a good sign for a statewide officeholder). While I wouldn't put this in the "Leans Republican" category by any stretch, right now the edge has moved slightly to Kirk.

That leaves Republicans needing to pick up one more seat. The most likely targets are New York (Gillibrand), California (Boxer), Wisconsin (Feingold) and Washington State (Murray). In California, Boxer continues to struggle against her opponents. The most recent polling shows her with leads of between four and eight points against her various opponents. Boxer still has an edge, especially given the demographics of the state, but any three term Senator with an upside-down approval rating and a 48% cap in head-to-head polling is in trouble.

Recent polling has also shown Russ Feingold trailing former Governor Tommy Thompson, 47%-43%. Thompson hasn't made his mind up on a run yet, and doesn't seem likely to run. But the filing deadline isn't until July, and Feingold's poor showing against Thompson indicates potential weakness against other candidates, if one should emerge (or if Republicans persuade one of their two gubernatorial candidates to switch races).

Similarly, former Governor Pataki in New York has polled well against appointee Kirsten Gillibrand, but it remains to be seen if he'll run.

Washington state Republicans remain in search of a candidate against Senator Murray, but if they can entice former gubernatorial candidate Dino Rossi into the race, Republican polling has shown him capable of pulling out the victory; nonpartisan polling is nonexistent on this race.

Republican have a relatively clear path to 48 seats, and probably a somewhat better than 50-50 shot of defeating Giannoulias in Illinois. The California, New York, Washington and Wisconsin seats remain longshots, and most of that shot is entirely dependent upon the GOP's ability to get their preferred candidate in place.

If the GOP does manage to get to 50 seats, then another variable enters the picture: Joe Lieberman. Would Lieberman caucus with the Republicans in order to deny the Democrats a Senate majority? He's made noises about running as a Republican in 2012, so it is certainly possible.

Bottom line, control of the U.S. Senate looks likely to be in play come election day in November.

Sean Trende can be reached at [email protected].
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In the long term, I'm not totally sure this is a bad thing.  The Republicans aren't ready to return to national power yet; give them some actual power, and they'll just look like the douchebags they still are, and the Democrats are as likely now as ever to change.

Except, perhaps, for Security.  The idea that we could have idiots like Hans in the Senate arguing on all channels on Sunday about how the Inquisition got a lot of things right will not be pretty. 
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Scipio

Quote from: Jacob on February 15, 2010, 02:52:23 PM
Quote from: Scipio on February 15, 2010, 02:48:52 PM
WTF is Bayh thinking?

One of:

1. "Better quit before the really nasty scandal hits."  This requires a scandal to be avoided.

2. "Fuck you, I'm out and napalming by bridges.  This is what you get."  This requires some internal Democratic divisions and power plays.

Just a guess.
I'm thinking number 2.
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Jacob

Quote from: Scipio on February 15, 2010, 07:32:58 PMI'm thinking number 2.

New theory: he quit with this timing to allow the party to pick the candidate, rather than having someone they don't like win the primary.

http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0210/32990.html

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Sheilbh

Quote from: jimmy olsen on February 15, 2010, 07:04:06 PM
I guess the failure of the jobs bill (Reid's fault) and the deficit commission (GOP's fault) were the last straw. The Senate flipping to the Republicans actually looks like a possibility now.
The jobs bill deserved to fail.  The deficit commission was mostly for show so no great loss there either.  I can't stand Bayh.
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When and how did the jobs bill die?

Sheilbh

Quote from: Admiral Yi on February 15, 2010, 09:15:06 PM
When and how did the jobs bill die?
I don't think it did, I think it's still going.  A bipartisan committee led by Baucus and Grassley got the jobs bill which included a number of not-terribly related extensions of tax cuts and welfare grants.  It was pricetagged at $85 billion; Reid said he wasn't happy with it re-wrote it while keeping the central things (such as a temporary payroll exemption for new workers) and it's priced at $15 billion.
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