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Started by Ed Anger, April 04, 2009, 01:36:06 PM

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Valmy

Quote from: Ed Anger on January 06, 2010, 10:19:33 AM
JOIN US. Together the Midwest and Texas shall rule the galaxy.

I don't know...going to Columbus every other year?  Having my beloved city flooded by Buckeyes every other year?  Big 12 fans never travel so it was sort of a shock in 2006 when they all showed up.
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Quote from: Valmy on January 06, 2010, 10:35:43 AM
Quote from: Ed Anger on January 06, 2010, 10:19:33 AM
JOIN US. Together the Midwest and Texas shall rule the galaxy.

I don't know...going to Columbus every other year?  Having my beloved city flooded by Buckeyes every other year?  Big 12 fans never travel so it was sort of a shock in 2006 when they all showed up.

Also, you'll be treated like shit when you go to Columbus. It has gotten slightly better recently, but the fan base are generally dicks towards outsiders.

They did treat the Navy folks well this year. They had to do PSA's to do it though.
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MadBurgerMaker

Quote from: Valmy on January 06, 2010, 10:17:36 AM
Hmmm alot of babble about Texas bolting for the Big 10 going on around here lately....

I think alot of people know that were the Big 10 to nab Missouri the Diminutive Dozen would probably implode and maybe we should be the ones to take off and cause the implosion instead.

But it is probably just wishful thinking...still all that sweet sweet Big 10 money...

That would be pretty cool, I think. The downside is all the conference away games being a thousand miles away.

Valmy

Quote from: MadBurgerMaker on January 06, 2010, 01:48:10 PM
That would be pretty cool, I think. The downside is all the conference away games being a thousand miles away.

The in-state conference games would be the only loss.  Stillwater and the North Division school trips would not be missed.

However the length of the trips for the non-revenue sports would be brutal...but the added income would probably make up for it.  Plus it would actually benefit the academic side which is an enormous plus.

But politically I think we are wedded to the Big XII come hell or highwater.
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Barrister

Texas in the Big Ten seems like a move that would make lots of money but is completely against everything that college sports is supposed to be about (which probably means that's exactly what they'll do).  Suddenly you're travelling a ridiculous distance for in-conference games, screwing over the in-person fans, and the student athletes.
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Valmy

Quote from: Barrister on January 06, 2010, 02:31:05 PM
but is completely against everything that college sports is supposed to be about.

Academics? :P  That is the main reason to make the move.

And do you think Lincoln Nebraska or Columbia Missouri is really that much closer than the Big 10 schools?

And don't worry it will probably not happen, Texas state politics insures Texas remains wedded to Tech and A&M.
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MadBurgerMaker

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Quote from: Valmy on January 06, 2010, 02:25:35 PM
Quote from: MadBurgerMaker on January 06, 2010, 01:48:10 PM
That would be pretty cool, I think. The downside is all the conference away games being a thousand miles away.

The in-state conference games would be the only loss.  Stillwater and the North Division school trips would not be missed.

However the length of the trips for the non-revenue sports would be brutal...but the added income would probably make up for it.  Plus it would actually benefit the academic side which is an enormous plus.

But politically I think we are wedded to the Big XII come hell or highwater.

The football team only plays away games at a B12 North location twice a year right now.  If they go to the Big 10, they'd essentially be doing that (they're all further away though) four times a year (plus the conference championship if they make it in there too..probably somewhere like Indianapolis or something).  Their OOC schedule would probably be OU, TAMU, +2 Texas teams (or OSU or something if they're feeling chippy).  The "other" sports wouldn't be the only ones it would be brutal for.  It wouldn't be easy on the football team either.  Hey...no one could whine about their OOC schedule anymore, at least.  :lol:

Texas fits beautifully with the Big 10 in every way except location.  The problem is they're so far away, even with all the bullshit politics involved, etc, that alone might be enough to keep them out.  The only comparable situation I can think of is South Florida.  They're pretty far away from the other Big East schools.  I guess Hawaii too?  They're only in the WAC though.

Barrister

Quote from: Valmy on January 06, 2010, 02:50:15 PM
Quote from: Barrister on January 06, 2010, 02:31:05 PM
but is completely against everything that college sports is supposed to be about.

Academics? :P

And do you think Lincoln Nebraska or Columbia Missouri is really that much closer than the Big 10 schools?

And don't worry it will probably not happen, Texas state politics insures Texas remains wedded to Tech and A&M.

Looking at a map I'm guessing that Minneapolis or Ann Arbor are a hell of a lot further still than Lincoln or Columbia.
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Quote from: Barrister on January 06, 2010, 02:53:05 PM
Looking at a map I'm guessing that Minneapolis or Ann Arbor are a hell of a lot further still than Lincoln or Columbia.

Yeah, they'd probably be in a "West" division in the Big 10.  Illinois (Champaign), Iowa (Iowa City), Northwestern (Evanston), Wisconsin (Madison), Minnesota (Minneapolis), and.....Texas?

It just doesn't seem to fit.

MadImmortalMan

We can just rename it back to the Western Conference and claim anything west of Philly fair game.
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Valmy

Quote from: Barrister on January 06, 2010, 02:53:05 PM
Looking at a map I'm guessing that Minneapolis or Ann Arbor are a hell of a lot further still than Lincoln or Columbia.

Well our teams fly to Lincoln or Columbia they do not take the team bus so is it really that big of a difference?

Besides Conference USA is spread out from El Paso to Greenville North Carolina and it is probably farther from Tempe Arizona to Pullman Washington in the PAC 10.  The distance doesn't seem to be a problem for other conferences.
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Quote from: ValmyWell our teams fly to Lincoln or Columbia they do not take the team bus so is it really that big of a difference?

You need to be looking at the division they play every team every year in, not the two games per year in the B12 North.  How big of a difference is it going to Minneapolis vs Waco?  Madison vs. Stillwater?  Yeah, that's a big difference.

Quote from: Valmy
Besides Conference USA is spread out from El Paso to Greenville North Carolina and it is probably farther from Tempe Arizona to Pullman Washington in the PAC 10.  The distance doesn't seem to be a problem for other conferences.

Conference USA has two divisions.  The one UTEP is in is different from the one East Carolina is in.  The PAC-10 also has teams within a thousand miles of each other.   The Big 10 with Texas would have a bunch of teams (in two divisions) fairly close to each other, then one way the fuck off somewhere else that's not even remotely close to any other schools in the conference. 

Think USF, Hawaii, and...thats about it, I think, for similar situations.   Edit:  Louisiana Tech is in BFE relative to the other WAC schools too.  Left over from when there were closer teams.

sbr

They should put Boise State in the Big 10; merge the two whiniest groups of people.

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They should put Boise St. in the Pac-10 so Oregon has to play them every year.  :menace:
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Valmy

Quote from: MadBurgerMaker on January 06, 2010, 04:48:37 PM
You need to be looking at the division they play every team every year in, not the two games per year in the B12 North.  How big of a difference is it going to Minneapolis vs Waco?  Madison vs. Stillwater?  Yeah, that's a big difference.

Well obviously there is no comparison with the instate schools.
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