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Started by Ed Anger, April 04, 2009, 01:36:06 PM

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Valmy

Really the top 4 should be:

Florida
Alabama
Texas
Iowa

until they get bumped off.  Having USC above Iowa after they lost to Washington is a real head scratcher to me at least with VTech their only loss was to Bama but now with them out of the way...
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Quote from: Valmy on October 18, 2009, 12:13:55 AM
Really the top 4 should be:

Florida
Alabama
Texas
Iowa

until they get bumped off.  Having USC above Iowa after they lost to Washington is a real head scratcher to me at least with VTech their only loss was to Bama but now with them out of the way...

Do you honestly think Iowa is better than USC?

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Yeah, at this point it's still about expectations quite a bit. If Iowa goes unbeaten they should be atop USC, but they will probably be underdogs against Ohio St.
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Valmy

Quote from: sbr on October 18, 2009, 12:50:37 AM
Do you honestly think Iowa is better than USC?

Do I think Iowa is capable of beating Washington?  Yep.

I watched the Notre Dame and Ohio State games I haven't seen anything to suggest USC is so great they deserve a mulligan.
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Quote from: Valmy on October 18, 2009, 10:58:52 AM
Quote from: sbr on October 18, 2009, 12:50:37 AM
Do you honestly think Iowa is better than USC?

Do I think Iowa is capable of beating Washington?  Yep.

I watched the Notre Dame and Ohio State games I haven't seen anything to suggest USC is so great they deserve a mulligan.

Nice try but you didn't answer my question.  I wasn't asking about Washington, I was asking about Iowa and USC. 

PDH

Quote from: sbr on October 18, 2009, 11:57:08 AM
Nice try but you didn't answer my question.  I wasn't asking about Washington, I was asking about Iowa and USC.
Sorry, he did answer your question - he clearly was saying that Iowa has a better record, and in the BCS world that should count more than pre-ordained glamor points if we are supposed to be having a real national champion.  USC's loss was awful (sorry Kat), and it should drag them down more than their reputation lifts them up.
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Quote from: katmai on October 18, 2009, 02:09:12 PM
Big ten sucks

Yeah, and Iowa hasn't faced the main conference heavyweight yet.

Don't worry, if Iowa wins out they'll be ahead of USC. A perfect record just doesn't have the same luster halfway through the season as it does at the end.
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BCS standings:

Quote1 Florida 6-0
2 Alabama 7-0
3 Texas 6-0
4 Boise State 6-0
5 Cincinnati 6-0
6 Iowa 7-0
7 USC 5-1
8 TCU 6-0
9 LSU 5-1
10 Miami (FL) 5-1
11 Oregon 5-1
12 Georgia Tech 6-1
13 Penn State 6-1
14 Virginia Tech 5-2
15 Oklahoma State 5-1
16 Brigham Young 6-1
17 Houston 5-1
18 Utah 5-1
19 Ohio State 5-2
20 Pittsburgh 6-1
21 Wisconsin 5-2
22 Arizona 4-2
23 West Virginia 5-1
24 South Carolina 5-2
25 Kansas 5-1

Nothing there I can disagree with too strongly.  I think TCU will finish ahead of Boise for the consolation BCS slot if they both win out.  Iowa is well placed to finish in the top 2 should Texas or the two SEC giants falter.
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AP Poll: The Crimson Timmehs are #1!

Quote1 Alabama (39) 7-0 1447
2 Florida (20) 6-0 1434
3 Texas 6-0 1365
4 USC 5-1 1213
5 Cincinnati 6-0 1163
6 Boise State 6-0 1156
7 Iowa 7-0 1092
8 Miami (FL) 5-1 1056
9 LSU 5-1 1014
10 TCU 6-0 1001
11 Georgia Tech 6-1 861
12 Oregon 5-1 849
13 Penn State 6-1 753
14 Oklahoma State 5-1 690
15 Virginia Tech 5-2 684
16 Brigham Young 6-1 601
17 Houston 5-1 478
18 Ohio State 5-2 373
19 Utah 5-1 350
20 Pittsburgh 6-1 330
21 Texas Tech 5-2 286
22 West Virginia 5-1 205
23 South Carolina 5-2 159
24 Kansas 5-1 120
25 Oklahoma 3-3 117

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PDH

Quote from: Valmy on October 18, 2009, 06:23:11 PM
Nothing there I can disagree with too strongly.  I think TCU will finish ahead of Boise for the consolation BCS slot if they both win out.  Iowa is well placed to finish in the top 2 should Texas or the two SEC giants falter.
I bet TCU gets dicked out of the BCS game if they win out (and that is a big if, it is much tougher for them), simply because...the Moutain West is the conference kicking up the fuss.
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grumbler

I am somewhat heartened to see teams that have had the guts to schedule tough NC games get credit for that, even if they lost them.  VT and OSU have essentially gotten props for playing Alabama and USC, respectively, being ranked ahead of some decent one-loss teams.  I am not sure why 3-3 Oklahoma is still in the top-25, though.  They have lost close games, it is true, but they lost them.  Their wins are against Baylor, Tulsa, and Idaho State.
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Valmy

Quote from: grumbler on October 18, 2009, 06:58:53 PM
They have lost close games, it is true, but they lost them.  Their wins are against Baylor, Tulsa, and Idaho State.

It is because they are named Oklahoma.  When they were 2-1 and had beaten Tulsa and Idaho State there were stories on ESPN about how they were back in the championship hunt.

I totally agree with what you said about tougher NC scheduling.  I mean at least put one good team on the schedule.
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Quote from: Valmy on October 18, 2009, 07:14:19 PM
I totally agree with what you said about tougher NC scheduling.  I mean at least put one good team on the schedule.
Yeah, like going to Laramie.
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-Umberto Eco

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